>We hit some new lows over the weekend, with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.

>In between the finger pointing there was grieving. On Friday, the White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level you can see how hard the President is taking this.

Can you show methe lie Kimmel told?

I wonder if US citizens are too far ensconced in team politics to get the real words said.

Breaking apart the above, 'MAGA' as a start. Not republican. Not right wing. MAGA. There is a difference, MAGA being a wide range of people mostly on the right. And when someone references MAGA as a specific group, they're not saying "the right" necessarily, but "people who identify as MAGA".

Both the democrats and republicans in the US have a myriad of groupings of individuals who are forced under one banner or the other.

For example there are christians which believe that their local democrats won't represent them, so they're forced to join the republican camp.

And beyond this, a democrat running in California will espouse entirely different beliefs than one running in Ohio. Or Texas.

So if there is some undesirable characteristic specific to MAGA but not necessarily the right or all republicans, this could apply here. And therefore, "One of them" doesn't necessarily mean 'left' or 'right', because somethings are about individual actions of specific people, not about pointing at an entire team.

Outside of eliminating campaign funding, having more than two political parties in the US would be key, I think, to fixing some of this.

That kind of denialism doesn't help, it just empowers the "eye for an eye" faction even more because they see that the left is incapable of self reflection.

The killer is far left. There is plenty of evidence and it's all fully consistent on that matter, even beyond the obvious nature of the act itself. It has been consistent since the first moments.

The right are upset about this! And they're even more upset about the mass celebrations on the left at the successful assassination. It comes on the heels of multiple attempts on Trump, Antifa trying to mass murder ICE agents and many other horrific events that show a sustained pattern of behavior.

When Kimmel claimed the "MAGA gang" (a deliberately insulting term) had "hit new lows", he was making the insane claim that being upset about political assassination is a "low" and "point scoring". And then he went on to deceive his audience. Instead of admitting that the "MAGA gang" were correct from the start, he claims they were "desperately trying" to "characterize" the assassin as on the left.

This phrasing tells the listener that the reason the right had to "desperately try" is because what they were saying was "a new low", weak or untrue, which is why it was a mere "characterization" and not a statement of fact.

It is obviously dishonest. When people defend such dishonesty and claim it's not a lie it reinforces the strong impression being received by hundreds of millions of people that everyone on the left is malicious and potentially dangerous. That's by far the most risky path forward.

People like Kimmel are getting this stuff from social media. It's flooded with people who are denying the truth, even trying to claim he's some sort of MAGA extremist. The author of the top politics Substack, who has over 3.2M Facebook followers and 2.5M subscribers, has told that exact lie. And she hasn't corrected herself either.

Left wing pundits need to be honest with their audience. The killer did it for their beliefs, motivated by their hatreds, encouraged by their celebrations of people like Mangione and Crooks. Instead of taking the high road and being the bearer of bad news, they've doubled down on manipulating their audience.

And now Disney has said that's OK, they approve of that behavior. The left certainly cannot claim to have a problem with misinformation now!