| ▲ | lostlogin 15 hours ago |
| > Antifa as a Terrorist Threat. Antifa is a militarist, anarchist enterprise that explicitly calls for the overthrow of the United States Government, law enforcement authorities, and our system of law. Does it? Or does it call for the Trump administration to be overthrown? |
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| ▲ | wmf 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I think there are forms of government that hardcore antifa would accept but they have no continuity with existing common law and zero chance of being elected in the US. So in some sense they do want the overthrow of any and all US governments. |
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| ▲ | russdill 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The two flags in the logo represent the communist and anarchist flags. The part about wanting to do away with the US government isn't exactly inaccurate. |
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| ▲ | nelox 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | An oxymoron if I ever saw one. | | | |
| ▲ | the_gastropod 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yea, except that logo is from the original German Antifa, who was concerned with doing away with a different government… | | |
| ▲ | jltsiren 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | The original Antifa opposed both Nazis and moderates. They were particularly eager to oppose social democrats, which Stalin and Comintern saw as their main enemies. And it lasted little more than a year before the Nazis took over. |
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| ▲ | SanjayMehta 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Does it? Or does it call for the Trump administration to be overthrown? From an outsider’s perspective they ARE asking for a democratically elected government to be overthrown. |
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| ▲ | bluefirebrand 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Do you think that talking about overthrowing the legitimately elected government should not qualify as "terrorist threat"? |
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| ▲ | whoamii 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | As long as we consider the Jan 6 rioters terrorists as well, I’m good. | | |
| ▲ | amanaplanacanal 14 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | They were just picnickers out having a good time. I guess. | |
| ▲ | bluefirebrand 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm fine with that, in case you think this was some kinda gotcha | | |
| ▲ | navane 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Jan 6 happened and is pardoned. "Overthrowing the government" is just talk. Shifting the focus on that talk is rethoric, this talk is unimportant and inconsequential compared to Jan 6. | | |
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| ▲ | k33n 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] |
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| ▲ | ternaryoperator 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Terrorism generally has specific elements; violence done against civilians for political or religious ends. So the Oklahoma City bombing would be terrorism, but the mass shooting in Las Vegas would not be. Unless calling for the overthrow of the govt includes a call to violence against civilians, it would not fit the traditional definition of terrorism. | | | |
| ▲ | lostlogin 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | So how would that compare with Trumps crowd storming the capitol? That was apparently fine, but antifa calling for it (if that even happened) is terrorism? Politicians call for governments to resign/quit etc on a regular basis. Happened here in New Zealand last week. |
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