No just challenging people to go commit violence. Totally the same thing.

Yes I do. I recently joined a Discord to observe some of this (long story, didn't know what I was getting into) and that was a tenet of what was discussed. If you want specifics you'll have to email me because I'm not comfortable putting more details here.

the Charlie Kirk memorial march in Huntington Beach had guys literally wearing "national socialism" shirts so yeah some of them definitely do

Patriot Front was literally marching through Orange County like a week ago.

For a refresher: https://extremism.gwu.edu/patriot-front

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From Merriam Webster:

Can literally mean figuratively?

One of the definitions of literally that we provide is "in effect; virtually—used in an exaggerated way to emphasize a statement or description that is not literally true or possible." Some find this objectionable on the grounds that it is not the primary meaning of the word, which we define as "in a way that uses the ordinary or primary meaning of a term or expression." However, this extended definition of literally is commonly used, and its meaning is not quite identical to that of figuratively ("with a meaning that is metaphorical rather than literal").

Is the extended use of literally new?

The "in effect; virtually" meaning of literally is not new. It has been in regular use since the 18th century and may be found in the writings of some of the most highly regarded writers of the 19th and early 20th centuries, including Charles Dickens, Mark Twain, Charlotte Brontë, and James Joyce.

One fun thing about talking with right wing internet commenters is that they don't really have any firm beliefs (protecting pedophiles is okay now, the government can take guns away from some people, etc.) and they love to feign grievance about darn near anything. I've got a little time so I might as well take the bait.

>The topic was about if there was any leftwing violence.

Was it? I mentioned the leftist violence, and absence thereof, in particular circumstances that you ignored. There was a slew of other stuff in there, but the main gist was attempting to counteract the other poster whataboutsing Biden saying that MAGA are awful people which, in turn, caused a whirlwind of hurt feelings that forced them vote in an authoritarian. You ignored that and wanted to review financials about black people rioting, thereby missing the forest for the trees and I should not have bothered to respond. Mea culpa.

>"You brought up this bad thing, oh yeah, well what about this other completely unrelated bad thing that the other team did!" is precisely the team sports thinking that you have engaged in, not me.["]

I hope you are not expecting me to take you seriously. I've been whatabouticized so many times by conservative pearl-clutchers online that it has no effect anymore. Near as I can tell, there's only one "team" here and I ain't on it. It seems to revel in disgusting me.

If you can spend even a second defending this administration running roughshod over our Constitution then I have no interest in your political viewpoint. The best time to have been shaming conservatives was decades ago, but I guess now will have to do. My only hope is that the America Right can rediscover their sense of shame.

From the GAO report:

   Over the course of about 7 hours, more than 2,000 protesters entered the U.S. Capitol on January 6, disrupting the peaceful transfer of power and threatening the safety of the Vice President and

  The attack resulted in assaults on at least 174 police officers, including 114 Capitol Police and 60 D.C. Metropolitan Police Department officers.

  These events led to at least seven deaths and caused about $2.7 billion in estimated costs.

  This amount reflects, among other things, damage to the Capitol building and grounds, estimated costs borne by the Capitol Police, the District of Columbia, and federal agencies, and estimated costs to address security needs and investigations as described in budget and funding requests, appropriations, agency estimates, and other publicly available information.

>I'm independent

That's great and I totally believe you. Thumbs up emoji and all that.

>I've seen what antifa militants do almost every time they protest,

Oh my gosh, you were serious. Can you point out the "Antifa militants" to me? How would someone go about training to join the Antifa Elite Guard?

I see there's a whole process to get into the Proud Boys and all sorts of other right wing extremist groups on Facebook, but I'm not quite seeing the path to membership for Antifa. Is it because they're so well organized and funded by billionaires?