| ▲ | maldonad0 11 hours ago |
| It's open source, not free software. |
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| ▲ | F3nd0 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| ‘Free software’ and ‘open source software’ (as respectively defined by the FSF [1] and the OSI [2], which is how they’re usually used in practice) have overlapping definitions. The project in question is released into the public domain via the Unlicense, which qualifies as a free software ‘licence’. Many of the other projects use the MIT/Expat licence, which also qualifies as a free software licence. [1] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
[2] https://opensource.org/osd |
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| ▲ | tonypapousek 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The license says otherwise; hard to get freer than public domain. |
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| ▲ | captbaritone 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I recall hearing that SQLite actually had some significant issues with choosing public domain as their license and somewhat regret the decision. Apparently it’s not a concept which has broad understating internationally, and there’s less legal precedent in a software context which has made it harder for some teams to adopt due to concerns from legal departments. | | |
| ▲ | shiomiru 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | The Unlicense isn't "just" public domain though, it also has a fallback
clause that explicitly lists things you are allowed to do ("copy, modify,
publish, use, compile, sell, or distribute"). So I think the intent is,
even if PD isn't recognized and line 1 is invalid, you're still granting
a license to the same effect. SQLite on the other hand just says The author disclaims copyright to this source code. In place of a legal
notice, here is a blessing:
May you do good and not evil.
May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others.
May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
which seems less useful once you strike sentence 1. |
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| ▲ | SoKamil 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | What is the stance of Your Average Corp’s security department on public domain software? Do they accept software under such licensing (or lack thereof)? | | |
| ▲ | tonypapousek 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | From an American perspective, there’s no mechanical difference between that and the MIT license when it comes to security. They care more about the package being maintained, bug-free, and their preferred vulnerability database showing no active exploits. At least in my experience, anyway. Other companies may have stricter requirements. | |
| ▲ | jen20 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Who cares? Seriously. Whether a commercial entity who wants to be able to benefit from your work accepts the license you choose for work you do is as much a concern as whether or not the prime minister of Liechtenstein accepts the color you paint the outside of your house in the USA. That is: none. | | |
| ▲ | rerdavies 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Kinda depends on whether you're publishing open source software so that people can use it. And if you're not publishing open source software so that people can use it, why exactly are you doing it? If you don't want people to use it, GPL is the way to go. If you do want people to use it, MIT or BSD is a much better way to go. | | |
| ▲ | xigoi 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | GPL is for when you want people to use it. MIT is for when you want megacorporations to turn it into enshittified proprietary software and profit off of it without giving back to you. | |
| ▲ | jen20 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Linux, Git and the entire GNU system are counterexamples. Meanwhile FreeBSD dies by the day. People != the legal departments of corporations. | |
| ▲ | TZubiri 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | >"If you don't want people to use it, GPL is the way to go" lol |
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| ▲ | _puk 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Bad analogy.. if they truly care what colour your house is then there's plenty of strings they could pull. I mean, a good number of large U.S. company's tax and corporate structures depend heavily on Liechtenstein's government’s rules.. | | |
| ▲ | jen20 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | Some people have standing for better or mostly worse - HOAs and local councils. The government of Liechtenstein does not. |
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| ▲ | tripplyons 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Open source is a more informative term for this than free software. Not all free software is open source, but all open source software is free. Edit: I was not aware of the FSF's definition. I was using a definition of free software being software that you can use without having to pay for it. | | |
| ▲ | F3nd0 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I think you are mistaken; neither is a subset of the other. At the very least, there are licences which are recognised as open source by the OSI, but not as free by the FSF, and vice versa [1]. I think it’s more appropriate to say they are two fundamentally separate definitions with a massive overlap. [1] https://spdx.org/licenses/ | | | |
| ▲ | xigoi 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Edit: I was not aware of the FSF's definition. I was using a definition of free software being software that you can use without having to pay for it. That’s called freeware. Also, open-source software can be paid (with the caveat that if someone buys it, you must allow them to redistribute it for free). | |
| ▲ | manbash 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Not all free software is open sourc Depends on which "free software" definition you're referring to. The FSF definition of "free software" requires it to be open source. | | | |
| ▲ | TZubiri 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You have recited a successful incantation to summon the Stallman acolytes. To add an additional suggestion, gratis can also be used to refer to free as in free beer. Comes from a latin root and is common in spanish speaking countries to refer only to free of charge, and not as in freedom. |
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| ▲ | lioeters 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Aside from the posted library sj.h which is in public domain (compatible with the definition of "free software"), the author's other projects mostly use the MIT license. The MIT license upholds the four essential freedoms of free software: the right to run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve the software. It is listed under "Expat License" in the list of GPL-compatible Free Software licenses. https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html |
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| ▲ | ramses0 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| "Source Available" and "Open Source" (with an OSI-approved license) are the terms you're looking for. "Free as in speech, or free as in beer?" is your rallying cry. |
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| ▲ | rerdavies 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | Or Free as in Ebola, in the case of GPL-licensed software. Whatever happened to Free as in Air and Sunshine? | | |
| ▲ | a96 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | It was enshittified because there was nothing defending it. |
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