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| ▲ | fatfox 12 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I’m not sure where you’ve got the stats from, but student visas granted dropped since 2022, acc to UK gov (-5% in 2023, -14% in 2024).[0] Combined with universities' increasing reliance on international student income (over the last years) and issues accessing research funding, this can get universities into trouble. [0] https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-... | | | |
| ▲ | skippyboxedhero 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Because universities borrowed staggering amounts of money and hired massive numbers of people. The assumption was that international student numbers would be allowed to grow as fast or faster than in the past, ignoring the fact that the UK is not able to provide infrastructure for the people who live here let alone temporary inhabitants. There is no way to keep the bubble going (as with every bubble, for government and university administrators it just seemed unlimited because there are no limits to resources, dangerous). | | |
| ▲ | varispeed 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | Don't forget that the Universities focused on getting foreign students and cashing in instead of providing valuable education. The quality of teaching is non-existent. It's about giving foreign parents ability to tell their peers look my brilliant child is studying in England! But really they are not studying. Attendance is not checked and lectures are a sham. | | |
| ▲ | elcritch 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I TA’ed a course at my state university a few years back. We had some program that attracted hundreds of students from the UAE. Many were obviously from wealthy families and drove Mercedes and BMWs, etc. The amount of cheating on exams and complete lack of effort on studying by the vast majority (+80%) was astounding. We were essentially hand feeding them to get them to learn the material. The professor was very frustrated but (I presume) was told you can’t come down hard on them. They were obviously a huge income source for the university. Reason #53 why modern university has basically become a scam. | | |
| ▲ | pyuser583 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | I’ve seen lots of variations on this. Community colleges seem to have gotten in on it in a big way. |
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| ▲ | anonymousDan 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This is such garbage. The only reason universities focused on getting foreign students is because the introduction of fees that don't increase with inflation means they are all slowly going bankrupt. | | |
| ▲ | varispeed 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | The funding squeeze is real, but that’s not the whole story. Universities didn’t have to turn into diploma/visa mills - they chose to. Instead of protecting standards, they pivoted to a business model of brand-selling: recruiting overseas students at inflated rates and cutting corners on teaching. Domestic students end up with debt for degrees that deliver little value, often taught by underqualified lecturers. Those who complain get brushed off or quietly bought out with NDA-style settlements. Foreign students mostly keep quiet because openly questioning standards would devalue their own diploma. So yes, funding cuts mattered - but the bigger scandal is how universities responded. They saw the “golden years” were over and decided to milk the brand, not safeguard education. They are basically a scam. |
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| ▲ | foldr 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Attendance is not checked and lectures are a sham. Formal tracking of attendance at lectures is a fairly new thing in British universities (introduced around 2015 when I was teaching at one). | | |
| ▲ | varispeed 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | Actually, the Home Office / UKVI does require universities sponsoring international students to monitor attendance and engagement, and to report non-attendance. This has prompted many universities to formalise attendance tracking (barcode check-ins, attendance apps etc.), especially for visa-holding students. Whether they actually do it, is another question. |
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