| ▲ | thepasswordis 16 hours ago |
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| ▲ | CalChris 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Not a business decision. His contract was renewed in 2022 and he had 1.77 million total viewers per night. https://www.statista.com/chart/35165/us-late-night-show-rati... |
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| ▲ | scheeseman486 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > What Kimmel Said, and the affiliates broadcasted, was a claim that Charlie Kirk’s assassin was a “maga” supporter. This is the actual quote: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Note that he doesn't say that the shooter was MAGA, only that those within the right wing influencer sphere were desperately trying to characterize the shooter as anything other than one of them. This is unambiguously and factually true. I swear, media literacy in the united states is in the fucking toilet. |
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| ▲ | andsoitis 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them > Note that he doesn't say that the shooter was MAGA then who does the "them" refer to? | | | |
| ▲ | autoexec 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Really, literacy in generally is tanking in the US. In 2024 over half the adults in the country couldn't even read at a sixth grade level! 21% are outright illiterate. | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > he doesn't say that the shooter was MAGA, only that those within the right wing influencer sphere were desperately trying to characterize the shooter as anything other than one of them. This is unambiguously and factually true. I'll put it in the technically true but ambiguously misinformation category. (Which is on every metric better than what goes on at Fox.) | | |
| ▲ | defrost 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | > technically true but ambiguous which has been the backbone of satirical and scathing social and political commentary in the western world for 50 years at least. The Daily Show, The -s30e102- 2025-09-18 Maria Ressa episode with Jon Stewart's monologue and interview went another way, "rolling over" completely into total Trump submission followed by drawing direct comparisons to Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte popularist seizing of control of government. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Ressa * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodrigo_Duterte | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yup. The number of people defending this makes me seriously wonder if we need a two-speed democracy. One class that is given safety. The other who is exposed to dangerous elements like Jimmy Kimmel… |
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| ▲ | dismalaf 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | "My wife wants to go for dinner but I'd like to eat anything other than fish." Strongly implies the wife in the sentence wants to eat fish. Anyone with a moderate grasp of English understands what Kimmel was implying. "Trying to characterize him as anything other than one of them". <- The implication is definitely that he's "one of them". | | |
| ▲ | scheeseman486 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | That isn't the same and you know it. Kimmel made no direct comment about what the shooter was aligned with, only about what the right wing sphere was attempting to frame them as being. Anyone with a moderate grasp of English should be able to tell the difference. |
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| ▲ | novemp 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > There’s a relatively narrow rule which prohibits fcc licensed stations from knowing broadcasting false information if it has the possibility of creating civil unrest. Oh wow, I didn't realize Fox News wasn't FCC-licensed. |
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| ▲ | flutas 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | > fcc licensed stations Think your local K[3 letter] west of the Mississippi, W[3 letter] east of the Mississippi*. Not "Showtime" or "HBO" or "Cartoon Network" or "CNN" or "Fox News" or "MSNBC". That's why the affiliates started pulling it, because their license is what's on the line, not ABC/Disney directly. *: Except for KDKA, KYW, WFAA, WBAP, WOAI, WDAY, and WNAX. | | |
| ▲ | aaronharnly 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | Well, the subset of stations that pulled the show were the ones owned by a (right-wing) company, Nexstar, that has proposed a merger that is up for FCC review. It wasn’t fear of being punished for allowing a “falsehood” on the air, it was pursuit of favorable treatment from a political appointee. | | |
| ▲ | flutas 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | Sinclair (38 stations) also pulled it and they own more than Nexstar (28 stations). FWIW The Hollywood Reporter also is reporting that advertisers started threatening to pull their support as well[0] as several smaller stations. > Meanwhile, the advertiser calls began to roll in and then the big affiliate conglomerates, Nexstar and Sinclair, threatened to preempt the show. The second source says that the blowback was snowballing enough that had ABC not acted, Kimmel’s show would have been dark in a large swath of the country, even beyond the Sinclair and Nexstar territories (including in the Washington, D.C., metro area). [0]: https://archive.is/ADaHT |
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| ▲ | sapphicsnail 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Do you not think the decision was political? |
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| ▲ | jiggawatts 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > was a claim that Charlie Kirk’s assassin was a “maga” supporter. I just watched the video. What he said was that MAGA supporters were too quick to blame anyone but the right, before there was any evidence about the shooter’s identity or political stance. That’s a fact. |
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| ▲ | autoexec 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It's 100% true that MAGA people were being very vocal all over social media trying to characterize him as not being a trump supporter. What part of that do you think was a lie? | |
| ▲ | gricardo99 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | he’s clearly commenting on how the “maga gang” is characterizing the murderer. There’s no statement directly about the murderer. | |
| ▲ | scheeseman486 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | How is it false? It isn't making the claim that the shooter was MAGA, but commenting on the right wing influencer sphere's recurring habit of accusing mass shooters of being associated with any group other than themselves. | |
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| ▲ | scheeseman486 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | > "anything other than one of them" can very easily be interpreted in two ways, one of them leading a person to believe that the adult (not a kid) was somehow "MAGA" Anything can be interpreted in any way you want as long as you're arguing in bad faith > at the very least, the situation as tense as it was (is?), Jimmy could have chosen to leave it alone for a bit - why say that MAGA is trying to "score political points" at this time? Why not consider that many people are genuinely grieving and upset? lmao, no one, right wing influencers nor the government, is doing this. > ABC fired his butt, not the FCC or anyone else. A sternly worded message from the FCC chairman doesn't make a company like DIS fire someone unless it is convenient for DIS. That's a fact. It isn't "a fact". If a mob goon threatens action on an employer unless that employer punishes an employee, who the hell do you think is actually responsible? |
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| ▲ | ummonk 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| He never said he was a MAGA supporter but that he was being claimed to be not “one of them”. Given that the shooter came from a conservative family in a conservative town and attended trade school and spent his time gaming, I think it’s reasonable to say that he was a product of the right wing milieu, and not a product of left wing indoctrination as the right alleges. |
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| ▲ | siliconc0w 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | He also shot the guy with his Dad's Dad's gun. It turns out that if you keep a gun around, it'll eventually be used to shoot someone. | |
| ▲ | thepasswordis 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The fact that you believe this is the exact reasoning behind trying to prevent things like what Jimmy Kimmel did here. It could not be more cut and dry than this. In fact it is so cut and dry that a conspiracy theory on both the left and the right is that the text messages demonstrating his political motivations aren’t genuine. | | |
| ▲ | ummonk 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | Are you asserting that he followed left wing influencers or read left wing books or attended left wing classes or somehow got his indoctrination from left wing sources? There isn’t any evidence of that - there is only evidence that he hated the right wing (and to the contrary there is obvious evidence he came from a right wing milieu - just take a look at his parents). Simply hating a side doesn’t mean you have been indoctrinated by the other side - just look at people who left fundamentalist religious sects. |
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| ▲ | tcn33 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| what a load of bullshit. |