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scheeseman486 16 hours ago

> What Kimmel Said, and the affiliates broadcasted, was a claim that Charlie Kirk’s assassin was a “maga” supporter.

This is the actual quote:

"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,"

Note that he doesn't say that the shooter was MAGA, only that those within the right wing influencer sphere were desperately trying to characterize the shooter as anything other than one of them. This is unambiguously and factually true.

I swear, media literacy in the united states is in the fucking toilet.

andsoitis 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them

> Note that he doesn't say that the shooter was MAGA

then who does the "them" refer to?

scheeseman486 16 hours ago | parent [-]

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autoexec 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Really, literacy in generally is tanking in the US. In 2024 over half the adults in the country couldn't even read at a sixth grade level! 21% are outright illiterate.

JumpCrisscross 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> he doesn't say that the shooter was MAGA, only that those within the right wing influencer sphere were desperately trying to characterize the shooter as anything other than one of them. This is unambiguously and factually true.

I'll put it in the technically true but ambiguously misinformation category. (Which is on every metric better than what goes on at Fox.)

defrost 15 hours ago | parent [-]

> technically true but ambiguous

which has been the backbone of satirical and scathing social and political commentary in the western world for 50 years at least.

The Daily Show, The -s30e102- 2025-09-18 Maria Ressa episode with Jon Stewart's monologue and interview went another way, "rolling over" completely into total Trump submission followed by drawing direct comparisons to Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte popularist seizing of control of government.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Ressa

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodrigo_Duterte

JumpCrisscross 15 hours ago | parent [-]

Yup.

The number of people defending this makes me seriously wonder if we need a two-speed democracy. One class that is given safety. The other who is exposed to dangerous elements like Jimmy Kimmel…

dismalaf 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"My wife wants to go for dinner but I'd like to eat anything other than fish."

Strongly implies the wife in the sentence wants to eat fish.

Anyone with a moderate grasp of English understands what Kimmel was implying.

"Trying to characterize him as anything other than one of them". <- The implication is definitely that he's "one of them".

scheeseman486 16 hours ago | parent [-]

That isn't the same and you know it. Kimmel made no direct comment about what the shooter was aligned with, only about what the right wing sphere was attempting to frame them as being. Anyone with a moderate grasp of English should be able to tell the difference.