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Russian jets enter Estonia's airspace in latest test for NATO(reuters.com)
18 points by JumpCrisscross 11 hours ago | 8 comments
jerlam 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In contrast, Turkey shot down a Russian aircraft that had violated its airspace for seventeen seconds:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Russian_Sukhoi_Su-24_shoo...

JumpCrisscross 8 hours ago | parent [-]

I genuinely don’t get why air defences aren’t being engaged. At Estonian and Polish really still open?

wmf 7 hours ago | parent [-]

If Russia is the first to fire a shot it will be easier to make the case that they're the bad guys.

JumpCrisscross 6 hours ago | parent [-]

> If Russia is the first to fire a shot it will be easier to make the case that they're the bad guys

Sorry, if the country invading another European country while invading others' airspaces isn't clearly the bad guy to someone, the order of fire isn't going to matter.

Putin responds to force. Allowing these intrusions without consequence invites further provocation. Putin will bitch and moan about a downed fighter. But he'll also stop lobbing them across.

gnabgib 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Discussion (31 points, 11 hours ago, 15 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45302689

jokoon 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Russia will probably use their military exercise in Belarus to invade, just like they invaded Ukraine during a military exercise.

I wish it won't happen, but with Trump closing his eyes on Ukraine, and Trump being against NATO, this is an opportunity for Putin.

I really want to be wrong, but that's a possibility.

vel0city 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm reminded of the scenes of Tomorrow Never Dies where Carver tricks the HMS Devonshire into Chinese waters by meaconing the GPS signals and sending it off course.

Not that I think there's any deeper conspiracy here though. Just kind of an interesting "what if".

mna_ 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Nah, Russians do this routinely. Scroll down to the last bit on here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2y515gzq7o