there are only a few companies where very strong vision, long time horizon and pouring money into said projects come together.

NVIDIA, obviously and Meta are definitely on this list.

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xandrius 5 days ago | parent [-]

Yep "vision" because they are trying to sell you glasses. /s

But Meta's business is clearly getting more and more sweet data from its users. How anyone can not see past this being a surveillance tool for a vast amount of data is unbelievable to me.

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_zoltan_ 5 days ago | parent [-]

the vision is not the glasses. the vision is a connected world.

maybe this is not something that you understand, especially if you're in the US, as there it's common to move farther than the distance between Madrid to Budapest, as an example, but for a lot of people I know, like me, who live more than a 1000km from their childhood friends and 3/4 of the family, any innovation that helps us meet more often and do more things together is welcome.

forget the glasses. it's a step in a direction. there will be many more steps. if you have not already, I urge you to watch Mark's interview at the Acquired event, he talks about his vision there.

do they need money to make all of this happen? of course. you can be part of this as well just by buying META stock.

in the EU I do not need to log in with my facebook account anyway.

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jemmyw 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

I think your post is sarcastic and has slightly gone over my head, but I'll answer as if its not:

Facebook effectively achieved that vision and then blew it up in the name of money. It was a service that showed you the posts of your connected friends. Those days are long gone. They burned peoples trust in them. If you want to connect with far away friends and family then FB is no longer the appropriate tool. It should have been.

Although I'll say this as someone who has moved far away on more than one occasion: keeping in touch with the people you left behind via digital means is no replacement for being with them and a distraction from making new friends. People do the same stuff for the most part, and one persons new baby looks pretty much the same as another's. You really don't need to keep constant touch, you'll cover 20 years of important things in a 30 minute conversation down the pub when you go home.

	▲	_zoltan_ an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		My post had zero sarcasm.
	▲	542354234235 4 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		>It was a service that showed you the posts of your connected friends. It really is a shame that such a useful tool for staying connected with the real people in your life warped into the monster it is now. If Google's social media had caught on (and not inevitably went the same way in the name of maximizing attention) it probably would have been close to optimal. I get that they aren't running a charity, but its sad to think about how many benefits social media brought compared to the addiction machine it is now.

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xandrius 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

From the EU, I really do not care for mr. Zuck. Fool me once, fool me twice, so to speak.

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slumberlust 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How many times does the dog need to bite you before you stop petting it?

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hn_acc1 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

More frequently connected to your friends, so more ads can be sold to you and them, and more data collected to sell to other advertisers / surveillance forces? Doesn't sound all the great to me..

If it was open source with zero tracking, I might consider it. As it is, HARD PASS.

	▲	_zoltan_ an hour ago \| parent [-]
		for you, it's a "hard pass" (shout all you want.) I've and many other people have found targeted ads to be good. ;)