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| ▲ | cflewis 5 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| I think it's a "yes but" here. AI is the first transition point since the smartphone. Apple knows how to make hardware, and knows how to make software. I am extremely unconvinced Apple has a clue about what to do with AI. You can't just jump in, the lead up to getting this stuff going is a 5 year+ horizon, and Google, Meta, OpenAI and Anthropic are still moving exceptionally fast. Apple has shown they are nowhere near. They missed the boat on buying Anthropic, OpenAI was never going to sell with Musk behind it. There's no path forward for them, let alone catching up. |
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| ▲ | JSR_FDED 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | They also don’t own a search engine, yet google pays them $20B annually | |
| ▲ | wpm 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | There are a lot of AI companies that don't have a clue about what to do with AI. I would argue almost no one really knows what to do with it, which is why it's being shoehorned in everywhere. I think Apple is being smart by sitting out this "light barrels of money on fire" phase, because we have no idea where it ends or whether it'll be worth a damn. Apple has a big enough warchest that once real solutions do start to coalesce out of the fog, they can just acquire what they need to build actual products. |
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| ▲ | wklauss 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| To be fair, Meta is also not the first company to launch smart glasses with a display. But the reality of it is that it's probably still to early to say if these devices will have mainstream appeal. I see a lot of people saying "well, i no longer need to take the phone out my pocket", but that has been the case for a couple of years with smartwatches, for example, and it has not meaningfully changed our dependency from the smartphone or the smartphone market dynamics that much. |
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| ▲ | jayd16 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What does wins even mean, then? Apple doesn't dominate a market. They make competitive hardware that integrates well with its ecosystem. If there's a market for smart glasses they'll probably use the same strategy. |
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| ▲ | jhatemyjob 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Wat. Vision Pro was a complete flop, Airpods aren't the best on the market, Apple Watch isn't the best on the market |
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| ▲ | SchemaLoad 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | VR in general was a flop. Airpods and Apple watch I'm fairly sure are way ahead of the rest in sales. Airpods on their own are bigger than most tech companies in sales. | | |
| ▲ | jhatemyjob 5 days ago | parent [-] | | Ya sure, they have more sales volume. Doesn't mean they're better. Toyota tells more cars than Rolls Royce. Top-shelf wireless earbuds aren't from Apple. Same for smart watches. | | |
| ▲ | SchemaLoad 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | "better" is subjective. Competitors might offer advantages in a narrow scope, but clearly as an overall package, consumers think the Apple product is best since they choose to buy them over the alternatives. | | |
| ▲ | jhatemyjob 5 days ago | parent [-] | | You are absolutely right. The average consumer is super smart. Has great taste. Definitely knows what's best. | | |
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| ▲ | xandrius 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Sells like a Toyota for the price of a Rolls Royce, kind of a win to me? And with a much better brand than Google or Facebook. |
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| ▲ | apwell23 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | i love love my airpods pro. curious what is better than those? | | |
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| ▲ | paxys 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| People keep saying this, but it is absolutely not true. Apple was first to the personal computer. First to the smartphone. First to the tablet. First to wireless earbuds. The vast majority of the company's revenue comes from segments where they had a multi-year head start over their competitors. In fact products where they play catch up are more prone to failing (Vision Pro, Airpods Max, Homepod, Maps, MobileMe, Ping, Music Connect, AirPower, Airport). |
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| ▲ | stavros 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't remember about the rest, but we definitely had smartphones long before the iPhone. | |
| ▲ | blackoil 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They were first in phone with touch interface and no keyboard. In terms of other capabilities/apps there were other phones much more powerful and capable. Edit: even for touch LG Prada was first. | |
| ▲ | postexitus 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Not the first to personal computer. maybe first mass produced with a GUI with Lisa. We can always narrow a definition and find a first. Not first to the smartphone, but first to combine desktop quality browsing with mobile touch screen etc. | |
| ▲ | DonsDiscountGas 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They absolutely were not first to the smart phone, that was blackberry. It's just that blackberry sucked. They were first to PC but I don't think they were first to laptop. | | |
| ▲ | paxys 5 days ago | parent [-] | | Sure you can go back well before blackberry to find even earlier versions of the smartphone but the type we all use today was introduced by Apple. | | |
| ▲ | SchemaLoad 5 days ago | parent [-] | | They just removed the physical keyboard. Pretty much everything else about a modern phone was either added in later years or already existed. The first iphone was extremely basic. |
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| ▲ | Philpax 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | ...what? Aside from maybe the personal computer, they were not the first to any of those. BlackBerry/Palm/Windows Mobile devices all existed prior to the iPhone; the LG Prada was announced prior to the iPhone and had a similar form factor. Many tablet PCs existed before the iPad. Many Bluetooth earbuds existed prior to the AirPods. They did a much better job of integrating each of these into a cohesive experience, but they absolutely had predecessors in each category. |
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| ▲ | t0lo 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| No- they beat them by squatting on the most generic logical human friendly style so that other companies can't copy the most natural conception. They're copyright colonialists. |
