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| ▲ | tzs 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Are you seriously suggesting that Utah State University, a school that is often on people's lists of the most conservative colleges in the US, radicalized him to the left? And they managed to do that in the one semester he attended? |
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| ▲ | UncleMeat 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Remarkable that Charlie Kirk, who attended much more college, didn't get radicalized to the left! I swear, people talk about colleges like everybody is forced to watch soviet propaganda in a Clockwork Orange esque restraint. | |
| ▲ | rezonant 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Well obviously all colleges radicalize students to the left, which is why they want to get rid of college entirely. Public education as a whole radicalizes people to the left so they want to get rid of that too, so that it's too expensive for most people to send their kids to school. | | |
| ▲ | UncleMeat 10 minutes ago | parent [-] | | "College educated voters tend to vote for democrats" and "colleges radicalize students to the left" are two different things. The claim is not that this person was more likely to vote for Harris than Trump. The claim is that university convinced him to murder people. |
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| ▲ | vjjsejj 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Well school shootings are a trend too. The guy who was murdered openly and explicitly supported doing absolutely nothing about it (and gun violence in general). Regardless of this specific case the “right” ignores, supports or even encourages political violence on a much bigger scale than anyone else. So why is it only a problem in some specific cases but not in general? |
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| ▲ | DengistKhan 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Can you be more specific about how a single semester of an online college, as is the case with the acused, hypothetically would "radicalize to the left" a person like the alleged shooter? |
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| ▲ | jleyank 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| No, he was in a multi-year trade school after a semester of university. He was radicalized on-line... |
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| ▲ | romellem 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| In his one singular semester in college? Going to need a source for your fact there. Pretty sure no one has all the info yet. |
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| ▲ | suzdude 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| He was raised in a rightwing household with easy access to firearms. Hating Kirk is nothing unusual. Maybe something in his conservative upbringing led him to believe violence was an acceptable action based on his hate. That's not a belief shared by the Democratic Party. |
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| ▲ | msie 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| How does a semester of a very conservative college radicalize him? You sound like you are just parroting MAGA talking points. |
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| ▲ | mrtesthah 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I see nothing wrong with people acquiring a left-wing political lens as a result of their own independent thought process (which, by the way, has nothing to do with universities, regardless of what the right-wing talking points you're referencing say; the shooter went to a trade school). And in any case, a significant majority of political violence is caused by right-wing extremists. Of course the DOJ just deleted that report because it was inconvenient to their narrative. https://people.com/department-of-justice-quietly-deletes-stu... |
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| ▲ | themaninthedark 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | So earlier I took a look at the wiki list of Domestic Terrorism incidents. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_terrorism_in_the_Un... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45207030 Over the last 40 years: 8/16 attacks on that list are linked to White Supremacists(Counting OKC) ~50% In the last 15 years, again about 50% are linked to White Supremacists and ~41% linked to Radical Islam. | | |
| ▲ | gusgus01 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Are you analyzing the list of "Notable Domestic Terrorist Attacks" on that page? Which has already been filtered by some criteria of notability? A more complete list is actually prompted at the top of that section and is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_Stat.... However, you've possibly read that already since you're 41% number appears to be sourced from that page and is specifically talking about deaths and not events from 9/11/2001 to 2017. That 41% is heavily influenced by the deadliest event which was the Orlando Shooting, and if you look at the overall picture, 73% of events were perpetrated by white supremacists. Honestly, directly reading the GAO study and the other, more recent, studies is a lot more illuminating and illustrates the growing issue of white supremacy and far-right political violence. | | |
| ▲ | nobody9999 an hour ago | parent [-] | | The link you referenced[0] also includes this: A 2017 report by The Nation Institute and the Center for Investigative
Reporting analyzed a list of the terrorist incidents which occurred in the US
between 2008 and 2016.[27] It found:[28]
115 far-right inspired terrorist incidents. 35% of these incidents were
foiled (this number means that no terrorist attacks occurred) and 29% of them
resulted in fatalities. These incidents caused 79 deaths.
63 Islamist inspired terrorist incidents. 76% of these terrorist incidents
were foiled (this number means that no terrorist attacks occurred) and 13% of
them resulted in fatalities. These incidents caused 90 deaths.
19 far-left inspired terrorist incidents. 20% of these terrorist incidents
were foiled (this number means that no terrorist attacks occurred) and 10% of
them resulted in fatalities. Two of these incidents were described as
"plausibly" attributed to a perpetrator with left-wing sympathies and caused
7 deaths. These are not included in the official government database.[15]
So out of 197 incidents reported between 2008 and 2016, 58% were "Far Right" inspired, 32% were "Islamist" inspired and 10% were "Far left" inspired.[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_Stat... |
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