I'm curious, what does having control over the update process give you? Isn't it replacing one unauditable black box system for another? Are you concerned about a regression and don't want to be in the vanguard cohort?

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korse 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

My car/motorcycle/skateboard doesn't need over the air updates. It used to be, and still is in some cases, that a vehicle (electronic control modules and all) was sold as a finished product. Your engine control module or speed controller didn't need random firmware updates because it was a finished product that worked as intended upon delivery. Now people are clamoring to drive software licenses and I want no part of it. This isn't about auditing the code, this is about complexity creep and having ownership.

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imoverclocked a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Well, there is the "my car has been disabled in an inconvenient time/location" problem for one. It would be nice to have more audibility but I use iOS/macOS/etc so it would be disingenuous to claim that as a show-stopper.

If by "vanguard cohort" you mean "in the first wave to test the new software," then yes; I don't want to be in that group.

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Incipient a day ago | parent [-]

I feel like being concerned about your car being disabled at an inconvenient time, but not being as concerned about your phone/laptop isn't disingenuous.

They're entirely different products, costs, use cases, risk profiles.

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		For the most part, yes. I do fly with ForeFlight though. Losing it mid-flight would not be a disaster in its own right but the tech has saved my life a few times. The ForeFlight team will send out a message giving an "all clear" or a "wait for us to update the app before updating to the next iOS/iPadOS release."