> Tbf, the Finder is still crap (if only it would be nearly as good as Windows Explorer was in its heyday I would probably use it more)

I have the exact opposite opinion. I loathe Windows Explorer, and relatively simply stuff like presenting a tree view is apparently some weird magic trick that only Apple has figured out how to do.

Browsing SMB shares (or any other networked storage) is one shortcut away (cmd+k), and I don't need to visit control panel to enable weird subsystems that expose services on my machine to connect to other machines.

I use the terminal a lot, also for simple file operations, but that is because of proficiency, not out of need.

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theshrike79 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

...but the SMB implementation on macOS is shit.

Try to browse any network directory with a non-trivial amount of files and see the whole Finder window just beach-ball or freeze.

I can browse my NAS faster via a browser and copyparty[0] than with Finder and SMB or NFS...

[0] https://github.com/9001/copyparty

	▲	ndiddy 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yeah I don’t know how they made it so bad. On Windows & Linux, using an SMB share basically gives you the same experience as using a USB hard drive connected directly to the machine. On Mac, you have to wait 30 seconds every time you open a directory. Then when you’re finally at the directory you want and start copying files, the speed slows down to a crawl as the copy progresses. I find it especially confusing because Apple offers 10 Gbit networking for their desktops at an additional fee. What’s the point of having that option when their shitty SMB implementation makes doing anything on your LAN far slower than 1 Gbit anyway?

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wazoox 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

on my Mac, the finder systematically fails to display the most recent downloaded files, or files synchronized through Nextcloud, under "recent files". For some reason, it always displays some random selection of recently used files. It's completely useless. In fact, I look for recent files using "find" in the terminal. At least this work.

On my Linux laptop, Nautilus (Gnome) displays exactly the last files in the right order, and it's incredibly useful.

There are countless annoyances like this on MacOS; window focus and placement always surprises and annoys me, even if Rectangle helps somewhat. I find it so much less usable and useful than Gnome.

	▲	coldtea an hour ago \| parent [-]
		>or files synchronized through Nextcloud, under "recent files" Are those created/updated with the current date when they sync, or with the date they have on the host system?

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nikau 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

How is \\server\share any harder than finder?

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pasc1878 8 hours ago | parent [-]

You have to type it.

Finder shows them in the sidebar and you just click on it.

Apple OS (both classic and NeXTStep) are not keyboard driven but mouse driven.

	▲	efdee 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Same for Explorer, really. The SMB hosts that announce themselves show up in the sidebar.