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cassianoleal a day ago

What evidence do you have that they are trying to do that?

IshKebab a day ago | parent | next [-]

All of the major commercial OS vendors are trying to do that. Apple started it with iOS. Google have gradually been tightening the net. Microsoft are furthest away but they have the longest legacy of freedom so they the furthest to go.

Obviously they aren't going to publicly say that's their intent, but you don't have to be a genius to read between the lines.

As for why... money and power are pretty big motivators.

cassianoleal 21 hours ago | parent [-]

Ok, so no?

IshKebab 13 hours ago | parent [-]

What evidence have you got that they aren't? I don't see why you're expecting some quote from Tim Cook saying "yes we're going to lock down macos in the next 10 years". Obviously not going to happen.

The evidence is their actions with gatekeeper, app signing, removing the right-click workaround, etc.

cassianoleal 11 hours ago | parent [-]

> What evidence have you got that they aren't?

I'm sorry, but I can't take this question seriously.

The main evidence is that they haven't. I also believe that it would be quite damaging to an important part of their user base.

Other than that, you're essentially asking me to prove a negative.

IshKebab 9 hours ago | parent [-]

> The main evidence is that they haven't.

They have taken many gradual steps in the direction of locking things down.

> it would be quite damaging to an important part of their user base.

Not as important as we'd hope. Look at iOS.

> Other than that, you're essentially asking me to prove a negative.

They could have said "we won't ever lock down macOS". They haven't.

I'll file this under "mark my words". Like this one :-D

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17363885

(I think it will probably take longer than 7 years though; maybe 15.)

timeon a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I remember when there was option to run any application. With Sequoia there are only 2 options: App Store; App store + Known developers. Third option was removed. You can still run other apps but you need to manually approve them with ~3 popups where first option is "move to Bin". You need to do this after every OS or App update. I wonder when this option will be removed as well.

tom_ 19 hours ago | parent [-]

It's been missing since at least Big Sur, so if they're going to go any further they do seem to be taking their time over it.

IshKebab 13 hours ago | parent [-]

They are still working on it. This is from a year ago

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/08/macos-15-sequoia-mak...

Obviously they can't do it instantly or there would be too much resistance. Microsoft have to go even slower.