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| ▲ | charlieyu1 a day ago | parent | next [-] | | I got an email from a client about a meeting at 2PM on Gmail. Their AI automatically added an 2AM slot to my calendar and it cannot even be removed | | |
| ▲ | falcor84 a day ago | parent [-] | | Going on a tangent from a tangent, I think that the 2*12h clock is a horrible idea that should have been rejected from the start, and the Product Manager who proposed it 3 thousand years ago should have been immediately put into the dungeons and fed only once a day at 12PM. Anyway, now we know better and there's no good excuse not to use a 24h clock as the default across all systems. | | |
| ▲ | brewdad 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | As usual the problem is Americans. We won't learn metric and refuse to use the 24 hour clock. It removes ambiguity and solves so many issues but since it would require people to stop and think what 1600 means for the first few months it will never happen here. |
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| ▲ | layman51 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Do you have any other small examples of stuff I could try out to test-drive the Gemini integration for Google Sheets? My colleague tried it out to get it to make a chart, but it ended up failing at the task. It was hard for me to evaluate it though because it seems like when you use Gemini inside of Sheets, there's no way to share the conversation. That's horrifying, especially if it is responding back with delusions of grandeur. | | |
| ▲ | Insanity a day ago | parent [-] | | I didn't really have any success with it. It just failed in different ways, usually small issues (like it only has context on the current sheet, so working with multiple sheets is an instance no-no). But the goddess hallucination was the wildest and funniest one. |
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| ▲ | bitwize a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | > it started telling me it was a "goddess of light" blabla The dimensional merge is real! Did it also start talking about how it's a Hyperdimension Neptunia CPU? | | |
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| ▲ | estimator7292 a day ago | parent | next [-] | | I saw someone on here the other day honestly insisting that people just don't know what they want and need to be shown the new options. No product in our entire history has been so aggressively pushed into everyone's face. If there's a person alive in modern society who hasn't had 4000 AI apps blasted at them... where are they and how do I achieve this nirvana? | | |
| ▲ | hdNLouie a day ago | parent | next [-] | | An air-gapped 386, ASUS eee 900hd 901.. are my primary boxen, distained `netbooks' running SUSE 11.1 2008. I've idle 20 ARM rpi's, other 486's. My stack is emacs perl 5.0, gcc, TeX, pari/GP, maxima, and beautiful gpm transporter among tty terminals. One 386 netbook runs xbuntu w/ firefox to waste hours in the dangerous wild except for HN. It's all a happy arrested-development `Smell of Teen Spirit' nook I continue growing in. | |
| ▲ | distances 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Multiple older people have asked me how to get rid of the WhatsApp AI widgets. They have two on the main view: AI search field, and a colorful AI button. Nobody wants these, people actively reach out on how to disable these misfeatures, but somehow they must be pushed front and center. | |
| ▲ | ToucanLoucan a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | I really get sick of the comparisons to the iPhone and AWS and such. Those things solved problems. Nobody needed to be convinced an iPhone was a good idea; it was an iPod, a PDA, and a newspaper stuffed into a device the size of a credit card that you carried around with you and worked no matter where you were. That's a GREAT idea. No one needed to be convinced about what made an iPhone (or Android, or even Blackberry) a useful and good thing. Conversely, AWS made starting web businesses no longer require on premises servers, or really knowing anything about servers. You picked what you needed, and if you needed more at some point, you picked that. You could even dynamically allocate and deallocate servers on an incredibly widely available and robust data-center backend. That's HUGE. Numerous massive companies today may not have ever gotten started if not for AWS and it's now making far more money than Amazon's retail business does, and we know how huge it is because East-1 went down some years back, and a third of the freaking Internet stopped working correctly. What problem even remotely on this level does an LLM solve? | | |
| ▲ | dabockster a day ago | parent | next [-] | | LLMs can automate some tasks (especially basic coding), but with some major caveats: - They have rapidly diminishing returns on higher contexts. They are very easy to overload with user information. You can post-train them, but that’s too much into actual computer science to be useful to the average office worker. They can work well as a co-worker assistant in a few cases, but they really can’t replace humans long term. - LLMs only really work well when given the ability to call on-device tooling. Which, with a cloud system like Copilot, is going to be super tame and underwhelming because of lawsuits and various business deals. Tool calling is only really agnostic when you’re running the model yourself on your own device. - On the topic of on-device models, there’s also the fact that AI provider companies have been caught evading things like robots.txt and causing so much crawling activity that it effectively becomes a DDoS attack. On-device AI doesn’t solve this totally, but most people likely won’t be pushing their gaming GPUs to the absolute limit 24/7 to constantly hit websites with crawl requests. | |
| ▲ | ponector a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | >> What problem even remotely on this level does an LLM solve? Translation problem. Google Translate does job poorly, if you compare with chatgpt. Especially if there are mix of languages in input. Basic search of common, Wikipedia-level knowledge, to explain something. LLM is good at it. | |
| ▲ | pqtyw a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Nobody needed to be convinced an iPhone was a good idea It still took a couple of years, though. Of course in hindsight its rather obvious. But there were other smartphones and they were (on paper at least) superior in quite a few ways. | | |
| ▲ | ToucanLoucan a day ago | parent [-] | | > It still took a couple of years, though. I mean was that because of the iPhone as a concept or because it debuted as an exclusive on the worst cell carrier in the United States lol | | |
| ▲ | pqtyw 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Both, I think. The first iPhone was more of a prototype. No, apps and no 3G. It had a great browser but you could barely use it anywhere outside your home/office. You had Symbian, Palm, Windows CE devices which had all of that and keyboards. I won't pretend it was 100% obvious to me who was going to win at the time (and I don't think I was unique in that). | | |
| ▲ | brewdad 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | The first iPhone was the "early-adopter" model. Later phones learned from its flaws and stabilized the pricing schemes for the general consumer. |
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| ▲ | ryandrake a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Nothing says "this product is useful and people want it" quite like having to force it onto users' computers. | | |
| ▲ | chankstein38 a day ago | parent [-] | | And having people complain when you do it lol if they were forcing a new hip version of minesweeper no one would care. But since it's AI garbage being forced on us, we're all mad. | | |
| ▲ | rchaud a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Minesweeper, Solitaire and 3D Space Pinball are remembered fondly because they were entertaining and stayed out of the way. Copilot is the opposite of that. I don't need to see a Copilot prompt to "clean up my data" when I open an Excel file. | |
| ▲ | keyringlight a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There's historical examples too, years ago people were pissed when Apple and U2 force downloaded their newly released album onto everyone's iPhone/Pod, and there's also the reverse where some highly anticipated game release will have servers overwhelmed by demand. It's hard to see any organic desire for AI in the general public, a new model releasing doesn't cause a wave of interest. | |
| ▲ | ToucanLoucan a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | I mean, the vast majority of the time, I don't care. The one that actually did make me mad was Apple Messages getting pre-generated replies on every Messages window when you click into the field, which a) I don't want, and b), and this is the irritating part: the little popup thing that shows them so you can click them obstructs the Enter key from sending whatever you have typed. So you constantly have to either hit Escape to dismiss it, or click it away, before you can send what you actually want to send. It's remarkably fucking annoying and is genuinely one of the worst UX decisions Apple has made in like a decade. | | |
| ▲ | chankstein38 a day ago | parent [-] | | Wow, that sounds awful! The one that keeps bothering me is the Google AI Mode popup. Every time I google anything. |
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| ▲ | isk517 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Just constantly repeat 'in-demand' until the dumbest executive at every major company is forcing some LLM product into every part of the operation in order to 'remain competitive'. I've seen first hand how useful AR can be for actually real world work by enhancing a flesh and blood human being's ability to do their job and the best device on the market is still the 6 year old Hololens 2. Microsoft just completely abandoned it in favor of something that most of the time says you the trouble of having to type something into a search bar. | |
| ▲ | dawnerd a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | And how are these companies measuring engagement? If they make it easy to accidentally click one of their "AI" buttons, does that count? Like in Clickup they put AI features on basically every single view they could and its incredibly easy to click one of them as their UI slowly loads from all the other third party junk they've added in. It should be a huge red flag if companies have to force stuff on users. | |
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| ▲ | flerchin a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | lol you must be new here. To me this rhymes with web3 (kodak coin), web2 (google circle), and also web1 (pets.com). There will be a lot of failures, but the companies that get established in the space will be eeconomic goliaths. | | |
| ▲ | nemomarx a day ago | parent | next [-] | | what are the goliaths from web3? I feel like that one still hasn't really worked out, and I do occasionally use Bitcoin to buy things | | |
| ▲ | flerchin a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Yeah that's fair. Many people will just never interact with cryptocurrency and all that at all. I don't. Supposedly BTC is worth $2.2T, which is somewhat of a large number, but it's all funny money from a certain point of view. | | |
| ▲ | tehjoker a day ago | parent [-] | | It's very funny to hear this because a few years ago the concept was "everyone will be using this" and that hype was supporting the price | | |
| ▲ | flerchin 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | The concept now seems to be that it's a volatile asset class? I don't really get what supports the price anymore. |
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| ▲ | ThrowMeAway1618 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | >what are the goliaths from web3? Are you not paying attention? Web3 is going just great![0] [0] https://www.web3isgoinggreat.com/ | |
| ▲ | ToucanLoucan a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | I really enjoyed that comment because if you read it in reverse, each subsequent "big thing" has had fewer and fewer goliaths emerge. In terms of web3, I think you could broadly say Bitcoin (though it was large before web3 so that one's muddy) and Etherium. But even then... given what they are, I'm not sure in what sense these are meant to be Goliaths...? It's alternative payment processors that have incredibly low adoption compared to virtually every other. They're "big" in the sense that they have a lot of traction relative to other crypto, but I still have never used the shit even once and I do not feel I am missing out even slightly. I've used LLMs FAR more than any crypto, and I still see it largely as a neat way to get out of writing boring code, and a good rubber duck to bounce ideas off of when debugging. I wouldn't pay for it if I had to. The only thing I know crypto for is being the new and preferred payment method for scammers, and that you used to be able to buy drugs with it but not anymore. And godawful avatar collections, I guess. I wouldn't call that a Goliath myself but. shrug |
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| ▲ | ludicrousdispla a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | You forgot about VR headsets. | | |
| ▲ | rchaud a day ago | parent [-] | | VR has its gaming niche and thankfully doesn't insist on itself. Apple abandoned it fast and Zuckerberg eventually stopped embarrassing himself by trying to make Metaverse a crypto-powered Epstein island. |
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