> The fact that title bars on OSX aren't a fixed size drives me crazy every single day.

Are you talking about standalone titlebars or are you including merged/unified titlebars+toolbars? Plain titlebars have a single height and merged unified toolbars have a little bit of variance but not a lot.

Any significant variance beyond those is due to third party developers hiding the standard window chrome and drawing their own. You could probably tweak NSWindow instances to bring back the standard chrome, but it’s going to look strange since it’ll show in addition to the custom chrome.

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doix a day ago | parent [-]

I am so uneducated that I cannot even answer your question properly. But for example, the default terminal in OSX has a really nice thin bar. VSCode/Cursor have a _slightly_ thicker one. Google Chrome and Firefox are huge. The red/yellow/green buttons also don't have a consistent position between those applications.

Do you happen to know which are custom chrome and which are "unified"? It didn't occur to me that other programs could be drawing their own chrome, since they look _mostly_ native(at least to me). On windows, if something was using custom stuff it would just look completely different (i.e winamp).

I guess part of the problem is that I've never done native OSX development, so I don't know what the APIs or native toolkits are like.

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cosmic_cheese a day ago | parent [-]

Safari is one example of a native AppKit “unified” titlebar+toolbar, as is the Finder.

And yep, all those listed (VS Code/Cursor, Chrome, and Firefox) are examples of fully custom third party window chrome, which is why they’re so variable. A lot of cross-platform software does this. It’s worth noting that Firefox at least lets you toggle on the standard titlebar — right click the toolbar, click “Customize Toolbar…”, and toggle the “Title Bar” checkbox in the bottom left corner.

	▲	doix a day ago \| parent [-]
		Heh, so really I just need to go with the Linux approach and recompile everything with "fixed" titlebars. For some reason it didn't occur to me that it's non native since they do such a good job at matching the native stuff. On a side note, I'm glad I don't use finder or safari, because those titlebars are even larger than Chrome and Firefox! Absolute insanity.