| ▲ | antonymoose a day ago |
| The $6k number is a touch high, but the answer is realistically 30-something DINKs and up. I make $150k a year, let’s say, and if I have a spouse with a corporate career let’s say it’s similar so maybe $250k-300k per year in income? Well that’s about $12,000 in income after taxes, medical, and a 10% retirement contribution. So, yes, $6k per month is house-poor numbers, but it’s workable for sure. If you’re even better off, good for you, it may fall into affordable range. |
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| ▲ | eweise 12 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| House in the north bay. https://tinyurl.com/bdhzx9xd |
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| ▲ | al_borland a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Making that much, I wouldn’t want to put anymore than 25% of my take-home toward rent. That would mean making $312k take-home… after taxes, retirement, etc. Maybe I’m conservative, but being house poor while making $300k is insane. I’m thinking someone would need to be pushing $400-500k for household income. That would put them in the top 3%. I don’t get the supply and demand curve on it. Making that much, and renting. It’s an even smaller market than the full 3%. |
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| ▲ | Marsymars a day ago | parent | next [-] | | > I’m thinking someone would need to be pushing $400-500k for household income. That would put them in the top 3%. I don’t get the supply and demand curve on it. Making that much, and renting. It’s an even smaller market than the full 3%. I know a couple in that range of HHI (doctor/lawyer) who sold their house and moved to a rental in that range. Their take is that their time is very valuable to them, and dealing with their house involved a bunch of time spent on management and administration that can’t be made to adequately go away without effectively hiring a house manager. | |
| ▲ | ndriscoll a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | I wouldn't want to purely out of the waste, but from a risk perspective, why not? Your other costs don't scale with housing or income, so if you're spending $70k on housing, you might be at $100k overall expenses. Add another $50k for income taxes and $50k for retirement savings and you're still at 50-100k left over for whatever you like (using 250-300 household income). 6k for a mortgage would be scary in case of job loss, but for rent, whatever, just move. | | |
| ▲ | al_borland a day ago | parent [-] | | The lease terms would be important. Not all leases let you out whenever you want. Plus, if a sizable portion of that household income is in the form of stock or a bonus, that isn’t showing up each month in the paycheck, lowering the monthly cash flow. If there is a layoff early in the year before the bonus pays out, and you can’t exit the lease, that would be a bad spot to be in. There is still risk on the table, depending on how some of this is structured. | | |
| ▲ | ndriscoll a day ago | parent [-] | | With the numbers I had it only takes 1-2 years to save 1 year of runway, so just do that first (presumably you've had a chance to save before getting your 250-300k income anyway). I suppose that the type of people to spend 6k on rent probably aren't saving much, but they could if that were their goal for some reason. |
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