Because if you want to get a good science education, you need to be in a place that supports science and education. The administration has disrupted the system that made the US the world scientific leader, a status it’s had only since the mid-20th century, which it achieved through concerted government and social investment. Which country is doing that right now?

In 1930, if you wanted access to the great science universities and literature, you learned German. Things can change. Quickly.

B/c the next Carnegie Mellon will be there

The point is you'll be doing business in high technology with China, not America. Helps to speak the language when you negotiate.

As opposed to the US, where the labor market will magically start growing net of immigration?

If people don’t want to move to the US, then America will get the same treatment.

American here who went to a Chinese (grad) school for CS and was admitted to every Chinese school I applied to. This is very much a possible route, if you’re appropriately qualified for the program. The main issue is language: outside of HK, programs in English are rare.

PKU and Tisnghua both have overseas student programs and they are particularly eager to have qualified takers. Now, the question is how far does that go when the schools really become popular undergrad and grad STEM studies?

The bigger problem is that schools like MIT, Stanford, UCB, UCI throw (or threw?) lots of resources at students that Chinese schools didn't really do (and maybe still don't? My info is 10 years out of date). Even the lower ranked schools have ample resources and fairly well paying TA/RA-ships available. In China, you would have to work for your professor's side company to get money, and the professor might not let you graduate if you were doing a good job (again, 10 years ago, I have no idea what its like today, China is changing quickly).

I would find it hard to imagine they wouldn't welcome foreign students just for the fact that there are so few in comparison to start with. Even if tons of US kids started going to China for college, they would always remain a tiny fraction of students due to the population size disparity.

> Chinese/Indian/etc will even be as open to US students as the US has been to them

India has been opening campuses abroad like IIT Madras in Tanzania [0] and IIT Delhi in Abu Dhabi [1] to cater specifically to building that kind of relationship in Africa and MENA. The majority of seats allocated (66%) are for foreign nationals.

Top Indian programs like IIT Delhi have been very active giving fellowships and subsidises for students and researchers from ASEAN [2], the African Union [3], Pacific Island nations [4], and Afghanistan [5]

And Vietnam would do similar programs as well for poorer ASEAN nations and a number of African countries (notably Angola and Mozambique) as well as Cuba

Japan has been running a multi-decade long international student and R&D collaboration program that helped jumpstart South Korea and China's R&D capacity in the 1980s and 1990s, along with much of ASEAN's more recently (my SO is a product of that). Same with South Korea as well.

[0] - https://www.iitmz.ac.in/

[1] - https://abudhabi.iitd.ac.in/

[2] - https://asean.iitd.ac.in/

[3] - https://www.itecgoi.in/index

[4] - https://www.itecgoi.in/Sagaramrut

[5] - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-14/india-off...

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