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kurtoid 3 days ago

They can visit all they like, but what else can they do?

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jerf 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Imprison you for up to five years and fine you: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871

They often don't. But it is not wise to attract their attention if you don't need to.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ks/pr/wichita-man-sentenced-pri...

And note the end of that URL. This isn't about Trump. This is about the Secret Service.

I'm not being funny here. I'm not being political. I'm not making normative claims here. I'm not saying whether this is great or awful or whatever. I'm not trying to score internet points. I'm telling everyone reading this, screwing around making threats to the President, regardless of who he is, is not something you should do lightly. If you want to do it, I won't stop you, but I'm a big believer in understanding what risks you are taking rather than being blindsided by them. There's plenty of people who have discovered the hard way that this was more risky than they realized and I'm trying to help treadump not be one of them, in the spirit of helpfulness, not internet points.

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kurtoid 3 days ago | parent [-]

I think a head-in-a-basket image is easily an artistic expression. I've seen worse

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jerf 3 days ago | parent [-]

Do you see an "artistic expression" exception in the law I cite?

Because the Secret Service doesn't: https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/420406-kat...

If you think that concept applies in this case, you'd best stay away from this topic entirely before you get yourself in a lot of trouble.

Again, this is a public service announcement. Not an endorsement, a celebration, a denunciation, a political statement, or anything else. Don't do this, not even playing around, unless you are aware of what you are doing and ready to take the consequences for it.

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kurtoid 3 days ago | parent [-]

It would have to go before a court. I think it wouldn't be too hard to convince a jury (or judge) that a head-in-a-basket AI art + description is expression (first amendment) and not a threat

Edit: your first link is a genuine threat. the second one is a picture of someone holding a photo-realistic, mangled head. The head-in-a-basket is neither

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jerf 2 days ago | parent [-]

You should stay away from this, in case you haven't figured it out. You're not even in the ballpark of a correct understanding of this situation. Better to just think you could argue your way out of this with a deficient understanding of the law than to put it to the test and find out how wrong you are in a courtroom.

	▲	kurtoid 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Relax, I have no interest in testing any of this. I'm just shocked that there's so little room for interpretation Sorry if I'm acting dense, it's not on purpose. What am I missing?

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actionfromafar 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Put you on a flight to Sudan?