"Either side"? The virus or humanity?

▲ dgunay 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

We had the technology to push out a vaccine in less than a year. Modern medicine is of course smarter than it was a century ago.

What went poorly is our society's collective response. From the medical and governmental establishment, there was much hemming and hawing over what measures to take for way too long (masking, distancing, closing of public spaces, etc). Taking _any_ countermeasures against the spread of the virus also somehow became a culture war issue. I'm assuming GP meant "left or right" by "either side" so make of that what you will.

▲ ttoinou 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah but, at least in my bubble in Europe, being for or against covid measures had little to do with left or right. It was about listening to mainstream media or having alternative source of information

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FridayoLeary 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

I followed the mainstream media exclusively and still realised immediately that nobody actually had a clue what they were doing. My trust in MSM died then. Most alternative sources are even less reliable but i believe spreading a wider net gives me a better judgement. Whatever you do, don't exclusively outsource your opinions and judgement to the MSM. Too often they take up the same wrong narratives. This is easier said then done. Read the opinions and news even from people you despise and be honest with yourself.

	▲	thrwaway55 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		Try to participate in any government...went to a town hall in a US city and both the company I worked for and unions were having people hold spots in line for FIFO comments body swapping for 'natural' opinion people. Media didn't report on it...ruined any trust I had in them.

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whackernews 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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▲ alex1138 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think "push out a vaccine in less than a year" is such a good flex especially when they also demonized and rigged the studies of the alternative drugs that must not be named

Fauci himself was known to say that vaccine development takes at least 5-10 years or something like that (and never mind the fact we had Event 201, that the virus contains code BY MODERNA) or else all hell breaks loose (he was also known to say masks aren't effective)

▲ alex1138 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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▲ AdieuToLogic 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

> All (virtually all, it's not hyperbole) of the "misinformation" during covid turned out not to be that at all

> There was no science behind social distancing, or masks, or the (so called, it's not an actual one) vaccine

These assertions are provably wrong. Regarding "social distancing" specifically:

  There was adequate empirical evidence for the effect of 
  social distancing at the individual level, and for partial 
  or full lockdown at the community level. However, at the 
  level of social settings, the evidence was moderate for 
  school closure, and was limited for workplace/business 
  closures as single targeted interventions.[0]

As to the science behind "masks" and "vaccines", the former can be trivially shown to limit the distance of oral particulate expulsion and the latter has enough published medical research to make verifying vaccine efficacy a matter of accepting facts.

> Edit: I would like to remind people that downvotes do not, and never will, make me wrong

It is not the downvotes which make you wrong.

0 - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9002256/

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▲ robrenaud 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

But being wrong can cause downvotes.

	▲	account42 5 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Popularity doesn't determine fact. If you cared about science instead of The Science you'd know that.
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▲ collingreen 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I wish it was as simple as this :(