> you sound pretty entitled and have a set of "rules" that aren't traffic rules.

> i'm glad we will have robot cars to keep folks like you in your place. you aren't entitled to make the rules of the road.

Nobody is required to be polite and considerate while using a shared resource, and if your opinion prevails, we will, indeed, have a cold, heartless society.

It is mildly interesting to me that you interpret being polite and considerate as "rules". I made no such claim.

I do find it rather belittling to claim I feel "entitled" - perhaps you could refrain from this level of discourse or go to one of the places more appreciative of adolescent behavior.

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octernion 3 days ago | parent [-]

heartless society is when someone has to wait at a red light for a few more seconds. and yes, enumerating a set of silly non-law "rules" you expect drivers on the road to follow is the definition of entitlement.

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paulnpace 3 days ago | parent [-]

> heartless society is when someone has to wait at a red light for a few more seconds. and yes, enumerating a set of silly non-law "rules" you expect drivers on the road to follow is the definition of entitlement.

Many of the traffic lights in this valley are more than 5 minutes per cycle. You are completely naive to the facts of the discussion you have entered.

Please quote my above comment where I stated my expectations of all drivers.

This form of sophistry is not recommended in text-based discussions.

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octernion 3 days ago | parent [-]

oh the humanity, maybe on the order of a few minutes. that changes nothing. we should be inconveniencing human drivers more, if anything.

that you feel obligated to use words like "sophistry" tells me everything i need to know about you.

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paulnpace 3 days ago | parent [-]

> oh the humanity, maybe on the order of a few minutes. that changes nothing. we should be inconveniencing human drivers more, if anything.

> that you feel obligated to use words like "sophistry" tells me everything i need to know about you.

You are evaluating one traffic light in a long series of traffic lights. At this moment, the grocery store is 2.8 miles and 17 minutes from my house. This is a typical short trip in this valley. Everyone complains about the congestion and terrible drivers (who, BTW, will not be replaced by self-driving cars). Driving here sucks, and self-driving cars make it just that much worse.

That you naively make assumptions and express opinions from these assumptions tells me everything I need to know about you.

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octernion 3 days ago | parent [-]

hmm all of my assumptions have been wildly correct and you are just further confirming it. good stuff my dude. sorry you choose a place like that to live. sounds miserable.

i'll be sure to wave at the other drivers next time i'm in town in a zoox or waymo and then go back to doing literally anything else than driving.

	▲	paulnpace 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		> hmm all of my assumptions have been wildly correct and you are just further confirming it. good stuff my dude. sorry you choose a place like that to live. sounds miserable. > i'll be sure to wave at the other drivers next time i'm in town in a zoox or waymo and then go back to doing literally anything else than driving. You will remain free to be self-righteous.