PPA results comparing x86 to ARM say otherwise; take a look at Ryzen's embedded series and Intel's latest embedded cores.

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bfrog 4 days ago | parent [-]

Have they reached apple m level of performance/watt after half a decade of the apple m parts being out yet? Do either AMD or Intel beat Apple in any metric in mobile?

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tinktank 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes and yes - again, go look at the published results.

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bfrog 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

I have, the m4 is significantly ahead by any measure I’ve seen, with snapdragon just behind.

https://www.xda-developers.com/tested-apple-m4-vs-intel-luna...

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Jensson 4 days ago | parent [-]

The m4 is not the same fab technology so not comparable. If you want to discuss the validity of some CPU architecture it needs to be between comparable fab technology, M4 being a generation ahead there makes the comparison unfair.

If you compare like to like the difference almost completely disappears.

	▲	bfrog 3 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		You mean how they all use tsmc n3 and the two arm parts still beat out lunar lake? It’s not like a whole generational node behind here. I get they aren’t the exact same process node but still.
	▲	bfrog 3 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		X elite uses an older node than lunar lake and does better

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daneel_w 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

No they haven't.