| ▲ | newfocogi 4 days ago |
| For others who, like me, didn't know what "clankers" are: it appears it's a popular derogatory term for robots or AI, arising from the Star Wars universe where clone troopers used the term as a derogatory term for droids. |
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| ▲ | toomuchtodo 4 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clanker |
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| ▲ | glimshe 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Don't confuse with "clUnker", an old car/machine. |
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| ▲ | fsckboy 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | nor with "clackers", and insanely dangerous early 70s toy consisting of two glass balls you smash together at accelerated speeds right in front of your face. I guess they were trying to make us feel better that they were taking our jarts away. | | |
| ▲ | jimmydddd 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Thanks for the reminder of that! This girl who sat behind me in second grade was great with clackers. Also, my memory is a bit foggy, but I don't think the jart ban was until eigth grade. So no causality there. Pop Rocks causing internal explosions and spider eggs in Bubble Yum occured somewhere between Clackers and Jarts. :-) | | | |
| ▲ | FMecha 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | The original form of clackers had a popularity in Indonesia and Philippines where it's named latto-latto. There was also a safer revival of clackers in North America in the 90s, where the balls are attached to a handle. |
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| ▲ | tim333 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I thought clunker and figured it must be about car reliability. Even now I've figured it's about AI, I still don't really get it. Is it supposed to be funny? Re funny, I think the Onion does better https://theonion.com/ai-chatbot-obviously-trying-to-wind-dow... | |
| ▲ | balamatom 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Probably from the same onomatopoeia, though. A car-sized machine makes more of a clunk, while a person-sized machine makes more of a clank, when you smash either with that old monkey wrench and extreme prejudice |
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| ▲ | m463 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| well, actually: The word clanker has been previously used in science fiction literature, first appearing in a 1958 article by William Tenn in which he uses it to describe robots from science fiction films like Metropolis.[2] He actually taught science fiction and had lots of interesting stories of the classic era of scifi, like BEM's - a bug-eyed-monster, arms wrapped around a woman in s "brass brassiere". hmmm.. which now I realize explains "the flat eyed monster"... https://www.baen.com/Chapters/9781476780986/9781476780986___... |
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| ▲ | ramon156 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| So many people missing the meaning of clanker. Its a satirical way of talking about GPT's. Don't dig too deep |
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| ▲ | wyclif 3 days ago | parent [-] | | It can actually mean both, depending on the context. Both meanings are valid. |
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| ▲ | catigula 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It's also a pretty ineffective term because it's clearly somewhat endearing. |
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| ▲ | dcminter 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Thanks, all I could think of was a Harry Potter reference which definitely didn't fit! |
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| ▲ | aaroninsf 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I wouldn't say _popular_ It has a strong smell of "stop trying to make fetch happen, Gretchen." |
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| ▲ | toofy 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | it’s wildly popular, it’s all over tiktok, tiktok comments, twitch chats everywhere, my 11 yo niece and her friends say it when something looks ai, i literally heard a group of teenagers saying it in line at a restaurant today. | |
| ▲ | boston_clone 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Aaron, I say this with love, but we're getting old buddy. We're no longer the generation that decides what's popular in pop culture. Mean Girls is 21 years old btw. | |
| ▲ | sniffers 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It's commonly used in at least ten discords I'm in. It's pretty popular ime. | |
| ▲ | edm0nd 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Fetch will never happen but clankers is already here and widely used. | |
| ▲ | ThrowawayR2 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | That's what I thought about "enshittification" but now it's all over the place. |
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| ▲ | ffsm8 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Really? I could've sworn it was from Futurama, or at least preceding the 2000s, strange. |
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| ▲ | esseph 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Per the Wikipedia article: >The word clanker has been previously used in science fiction literature, first appearing in a 1958 article by William Tenn in which he uses it to describe robots from science fiction films like Metropolis.[2] The Star Wars franchise began using the term "clanker" as a slur against droids in the 2005 video game Star Wars: Republic Commando before being prominently used in the animated series Star Wars: The Clone Wars, which follows a galaxy-wide war between the Galactic Republic's clone troopers and the Confederacy of Independent Systems' battle droids. | |
| ▲ | Dracophoenix 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There's a robot mafioso character named Clamps. Perhaps that's what you were thinking of? | |
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| ▲ | aquova 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Didn't they call them clankers in Battlestar Galactica? | | |
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| ▲ | moffkalast 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Just like the simulations |
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| ▲ | LetsGetTechnicl 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I feel like it started as a joke, but now people are just using it as a stand-in for racial slurs against Black and brown people, and it's honestly sickening. Like TikToks of people making classically racist jokes about Black people but changing it to "clanker" as a workaround. |
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| ▲ | Gracana 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Yeah, the whole "let's come up with a slur for <blank>" thing entices people to build their fictional racism on real racism, and it just devolves from there. I saw "wirebacks" thrown around recently, among others. | |
| ▲ | lagniappe 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Why do people so badly want everything to be about race? | | |
| ▲ | thrance 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Racial profiling is now legal: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/08/us/politics/supreme-court... | |
| ▲ | DrillShopper 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Nobody wants it to be, but wanting something to not be about racism doesn't make it not about racism. Jim Crow "ended" (it's what we tell ourselves) in the south in 1965 with the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965. Our last two presidents were adults when that happened, and it's not like racism was solved when those laws were passed. The US still has a lot of work to do here - it's absurd to me to hear US Conservatives talking about how slavery ended in the 1860s so we should end protections for African Americans because it's been "so long". It hasn't, and they know that. | |
| ▲ | MangoToupe 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | What do you mean specifically? | |
| ▲ | lupusreal 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Fragility. | |
| ▲ | const_cast 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | ... Because most things involve race? Like, clanker is the equivalent of a racial slur but for robots. The reason it works and is funny is because we already know what racial slurs are and have a contexr for it. If racial slurs didn't exist, neither would clanker. You have to actually think about the world we live in and why things are the way they are. Its a easy to say "just cuz lol", but we're engineers. Nothing happens "just cuz". No, there's a reason. | |
| ▲ | flykespice 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Perhaps because it's a fictional slur that is cleary a play on the n-word, a real racist slur? | | |
| ▲ | progbits 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | What's the connection between those two words? You know, aside the -er ending like in say teacher. | | |
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| ▲ | dpassens 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'd consider equating people and robots rather more degrading to people than calling non-people "slurs". | |
| ▲ | wedn3sday 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | No reason to be uncivil. It's a bit of a stretch to say that "clanker" is related to race in any way. Lots of slurs have nothing to do with race, you're projecting your own bias and prejudices as some sort of universal linguistic truth. In highschool band the percussionists called the wind section "honkers," were they making some vailed n-word allusion? No, it was silly and the wind section were all blowhards so we made fun of them with a little in-group slur. | | |
| ▲ | LocalH 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Anyone who says "clanker" is analogous to any actual racial slur is revealing their belief that AI, in its current state, can be deserving of the same rights that humans have. Which is demonstrably false, given the current state of AI. Now, true AGI? There's a debate to be had there regarding rights etc. But you better be able to prove that a so-called AGI is truly sentient before you push for that. This isn't Data. There is nothing even remotely close to sentience present in any LLM. I don't even know if AGI is going to be achievable within 100 years. But as far as I'm concerned, AI "slurs" are just blowback against the invasion of AI into everyday life, as is increasingly common. There will be a point where the hard discussion of "does true artificial general intelligence deserve rights" will happen. That time is not now, except as a thought experiment. | |
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| ▲ | LocalH 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It's closer to "cracker" than the n-word | |
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| ▲ | dcminter 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Sadly there are no technological solutions to humans being arseholes to each other. | | |
| ▲ | lazide 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Well, I mean, we did invent Nuclear Weapons…. That’s a type of technical solution! | | |
| ▲ | dcminter 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | You know I nearly added that caveat, but I figured it counted as more being arseholes rather than a solution per se despite the long-term reduction. | |
| ▲ | Cthulhu_ 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Don't tell Skynet that! |
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| ▲ | esseph 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It's also used in RL when talking about Waymo or food delivery robots, or when talking about the automaton faction in Helldivers 2. | | |
| ▲ | Cthulhu_ 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Helldivers is excessively/satirically facist and xenophobic though, I mean uh, managed democracy, rah rah! |
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| ▲ | axus 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I suppose this is similar to the debate over artificial rape porn. There are no victims, but we don't like the people on the other side so the speech itself becomes a problem. | | |
| ▲ | devnullbrain 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | >We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. - Kurt Vonnegut and >If a person has ugly thoughts, it begins to show on the face. And when that person has ugly thoughts every day, every week, every year, the face gets uglier and uglier until you can hardly bear to look at it. >A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly. You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts it will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely. - Roald Dahl | |
| ▲ | thrance 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | You're an idiot if you truly think that's the issue with "artificial rape". Go inform yourself instead of reflexively defending your in-group. |
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| ▲ | flykespice 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Literally, look at this skit that makes parallel to 1950s racism with "clankers":
https://nitter.net/yumecipher/status/1962475876609613920 |
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| ▲ | aaroninsf 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I wouldn't say popular It has a strong smell of "stop trying to make fetch happen, Gretchen." |
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| ▲ | marcosdumay 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I'm seeing a lot of it on the internet recently. People were also starting to equate LLMs to the MS Office's Clippy. But somebody made a popular video showing that no, Clippy was so much better than LLMs in a variety or way, and people seem to have stopped. | | | |
| ▲ | bongodongobob 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It is. I'm seeing it all over social media lately. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%203-m&ge... | |
| ▲ | IlikeKitties 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It's great i've called an LLM a fucking clanker and got to human support as a result. | |
| ▲ | bloqs 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | forced memes are considerably easier than they used to be | |
| ▲ | bbor 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's definitely popular online, specifically on Reddit, Bluesky, Twitter, and TikTok. There's communities that have formed around their anti-AI stance[1][2][3], and after multiple organic efforts to "brainstorm slurs" for people who use AI[4], "clanker" has come out on top. This goes back at least 2 years[6] in terms of grassroots talk, and many more to the original Clone Wars usage[7]. For those who can see the obvious: don't worry, there's plenty of pushback regarding the indirect harm of gleeful fantasy bigotry[8][9]. When you get to the less popular--but still popular!--alternatives like "wireback" and "cogsucker", it's pretty clear why a youth crushed by Woke mandates like "don't be racist plz" are so excited about unproblematic hate. This is edging on too political for HN, but I will say that this whole thing reminds me a tad of things like "kill all men" (shoutout to "we need to kill AI artist"[10]) and "police are pigs". Regardless of the injustices they were rooted in, they seem to have gotten popular in large part because it's viscerally satisfying to express yourself so passionately. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/antiai/ [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/LudditeRenaissance/ [3] https://www.reddit.com/r/aislop/ [4] All the original posts seem to have now been deleted :( [6] https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/13x43b6/if_we_ha... [7] https://web.archive.org/web/20250907033409/https://www.nytim... [8] https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/clanke... [9] https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/68364/1/cl... [10] https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-need-to-kill-ai-artist | | |
| ▲ | totallymike 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Citations eight and nine amuse me. I readily and merrily agree with the articles that deriving slurs from existing racist or homophobic slurs is a problem, and the use of these terms in fashions that mirror actual racial stereotypes (e.g. "clanka") is pretty gross. That said, I think that asking people to treat ChatGPT with "kindness and respect" is patently embarrassing. We don't ask people to be nice to their phone's autocorrect, or to Siri, or to the forks in their silverware drawer, because that's stupid. ChatGPT deserves no more or less empathy than a fork does, and asking for such makes about as much sense. Additionally, I'm not sure where the "crushed by Woke" nonsense comes from. "It's so hard for the kids nowadays, they can't even be racist anymore!" is a pretty strange take, and shoving it in to your comment makes it very difficult to interpret your intent in a generous manner, whatever it may be. | | |
| ▲ | epiccoleman 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > I think that asking people to treat ChatGPT with "kindness and respect" is patently embarrassing. We don't ask people to be nice to their phone's autocorrect, or to Siri, or to the forks in their silverware drawer, because that's stupid. > ChatGPT deserves no more or less empathy than a fork does. I agree completely that ChatGPT deserves zero empathy. It can't feel, it can't care, it can't be hurt by your rudeness. But I think treating your LLM with at least basic kindness is probably the right way to be. Not for the LLM - but for you. It's not like, scientific - just a feeling I have - but it feels like practicing callousness towards something that presents a simulation of "another conscious thing" might result in you acting more callous overall. So, I'll burn an extra token or two saying "please and thanks". | | |
| ▲ | totallymike 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I do agree that just being nicer is a good idea, even when it's not required, and for largely the same reasons. Incidentally, I almost crafted an example of whispering all the slurs and angry words you can think of in the general direction of your phone's autocomplete as an illustration of why LLMs don't deserve empathy, but ended up dropping it because even if nobody is around to hear it, it still feels unhealthy to put yourself in that frame of mind, much less make a habit of it. | |
| ▲ | barnas2 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I believe there's also some research showing that being nice gets better responses. Given that it's trained on real conversations, and that's how real conversation works, I'm not surprised. | |
| ▲ | JKCalhoun 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Hard to not recall a Twilight Zone and even a Night Gallery episode where those cruel to machines were just basically cruel people generally. | |
| ▲ | goopypoop 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | do you also beg your toilet to flush? | | |
| ▲ | duggan 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | If it could hold a conversation I might. I also believe AI is a tool, but I'm sympathetic to the idea that, due to some facet of human psychology, being "rude" might train me to be less respectful in other interactions. Ergo, I might be more likely to treat you like a toilet. | | |
| ▲ | goopypoop 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Any "conversation" with a machine is dehumanizing. Are you really in danger of forgetting the humanity of strangers because you didn't anthropomorphize a text generator? If so, I don't think etiquette is the answer | | |
| ▲ | epiccoleman 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | the thing is, though, that the text generator self-anthropomorphizes. perhaps if an LLM were trained to be less conversational and more robotic, i would feel less like being polite to it. i never catch myself typing "thanks" to my shell for returning an `ls`. | | |
| ▲ | goopypoop 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > the thing is, though, that the text generator self-anthropomorphizes. and that is why it must die! | |
| ▲ | goopypoop 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | alias 'thanks'="echo You\'re welcome!" |
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| ▲ | duggan 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Words can change minds, it doesn't seem like a huge leap. Your condescension is noted though. |
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| ▲ | Filligree 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | It also makes the LLM work better. If you’re rude to it it won’t want to help as much. | | |
| ▲ | totallymike 3 days ago | parent [-] | | I understand what you're saying, which is that the response it generates is influenced by your prompt, but feel compelled to observe that LLMs cannot want anything at all, since they are software and have no motivations. I'd probably have passed this over if it wasn't contextually relevant to the discussion, but thank you for your patience with my pedantry just the same. |
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| ▲ | epiccoleman 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | if the primary mode of interaction with my toilet was conversational, then yeah, i'd probably be polite to the toilet. i might even feel a genuine sense of gratitude since it does provide a highly useful service. |
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| ▲ | jennyholzer 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | > So, I'll burn an extra token or two saying "please and thanks" I won't, and I think you're delusional for doing so | | |
| ▲ | losvedir 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Interesting. I wonder if this is exactly an example of what the person you're responding to just now is saying. That being rude to an LLM has normalized that behavior such that you feel comfortable being rude to this person. | |
| ▲ | totallymike 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Eh, this doesn't strike me as wrong-headed. They aren't doing it because they feel duty-bound to be polite to the LLM, they maintain politeness because they choose to stay in that state of mind, even if they're just talking to a chatbot. If you're writing prompts all day, and the extra tokens add up, I can see being clear but terse making a good deal of sense, but if you can afford the extra tokens, and it feels better to you, why not? | | |
| ▲ | gardnr 2 days ago | parent [-] | | The prompts that I use in production are polite. Looking at it from a statistical perspective: If we imagine text from the public internet being used during pretraining we can imagine, with few exceptions, that polite requests achieve their objective more often than terse or plainly rude requests. This will be severely muted during fine-tuning, but it is still there in the depths. It's also easier in English to conjugate a command form simply by prefixing "Please" which employs the "imperative mood". We have moved up a level in abstraction. It used to be punch cards, then assembler, then syntax, now words. They all do the same thing: instruct a machine. Understanding how the models are designed and trained can help us be more effective in that; just like understanding how compilers work can make us better programmers. |
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| ▲ | card_zero 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | No time for a long reply, but what I want to write has video games at the center. Exterminate the aliens! is fine, in a game. But if you sincerely believe it's not a game, then you're being cruel (or righteous, if you think the aliens are evil), even though it isn't real. (This also applies to forks. If you sincerely anthropomorphize a fork, you're silly, but you'd better treat that fork with respect, or you're silly and unpleasant.) What do I mean by "fine", though? I just mean it's beyond my capacity to analyse, so I'm not going to proclaim a judgment on it, because I can't and it's not my business. If you know it's a game but it seems kind of racist and you like that, well, this is the player's own business. I can say "you should be less racist" but I don't know what processing the player is really doing, and the player is not on trial for playing, and shouldn't be. So yes, the kids should have space to play at being racist. But this is a difficult thing to express: people shouldn't be bad, but also, people should have freedom, including the freedom to be bad, which they shouldn't do. I suppose games people play include things they say playfully in public. Then I'm forced to decide whether to say "clanker" or not. I think probably not, for now, but maybe I will if it becomes really commonplace. | | |
| ▲ | dingnuts 3 days ago | parent [-] | | > But if you sincerely believe it's not a game, then you're being cruel (or righteous, if you think the aliens are evil), even though it isn't real. let me stop you right there. you're making a lot of assumptions about the shapes life can take. encountering and fighting a grey goo or tyrannid invasion wouldn't have a moral quality any more than it does when a man fights a hungry bear in the woods it's just nature, eat or get eaten. if we encounter space monks then we'll talk about morality |
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| ▲ | bbor 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Sorry, I was unclear — that racism comment was tongue in cheek. Regardless of political leanings, I figured we can all agree that racism is bad! I generally agree re:chatGPT in that it doesn’t have moral standing on its own, but still… it does speak. Being mean to a fork is a lot different from being mean to a chatbot, IMHO. The list of things that speak just went from 1 to 2 (humans and LLMs), so it’s natural to expect some new considerations. Specifically, the risk here is that you are what you do. Perhaps a good metaphor would be cyberbullying. Obviously there’s still a human on the other side of that, but I do recall a real “just log off, it’s not a real problem, kids these days are so silly” sentiment pre, say, 2015. |
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| ▲ | _dain_ 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | >after multiple organic efforts to "brainstorm slurs" for people who use AI no wonder it sounds so lame, it was "brainstormed" (=RLHFed) by committee of redditors this is like the /r/vexillology of slurs |
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| ▲ | duxup 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I find the term a bit confusing as it's common use in my experience are folks who only vaguely have an idea what AI is. Not to say their concerns are wrong (very generally) but it's usage doesn't usually convey much knowledge about the topic. It conveys more passion and drama than sense in my experience. Maybe that will change. |
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| ▲ | dist-epoch 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| From the world first robophobe, humano-fascist: Robot Slur Tier List: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoDDWmIWMDg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpRRejhgtVI Responding To A Clankerloving Cogsucker on Robot "Racism": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zAIqNpC0I0 |
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| ▲ | GeoAtreides 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | >humano-fascist ? Are you implying prioritizing Humanity uber alles is a bad thing?! Are you some kind of Xeno and Abominable Intelligence sympathizer?! The Holy Inquisition will hear about this, be assured. | |
| ▲ | noduerme 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | For anyone who struggles to understand what fascism is, the comment above is fascist trolling in its purest form. And here's why: The essence of fascism is to explain away hatred toward other groups of people by dehumanizing them. The hatred of an outside group is necessary, in the fascist framework, to organize one group of people into a unit who will follow a leader unquestioningly. Taking part in crimes against the outside group helps bind these people to the leader, who absolves them of their normal sense of guilt. A fascist will use "fascist" to sarcastically refer to themselves in ridiculous scenarios, e.g. as a human defending humanity against robots, or a human exterminating rats. All of this is to knowingly deploy it in a way that destigmatizes being called a fascist, while also suggesting that murderous measures taken by past fascist movements have not been genocidal, but have been defending humans against subhumans. I'm not joking. Supposedly taking pride in being an anti-AI fascist is just a new twist on a very old troll. It's designed to mock and make light of mass murder, by suggesting that e.g. Nazism was no different from a populist movement defending themselves against machines, e.g. Jews. Don't be seduced by the above comment's attempt at absurdist humor. This type of humor is typical of fascist dialect. It aims to amuse the simple-minded with superficial comparisons. It is deep deception disguised as harmless humor. Its true purpose has nothing to do with humans versus AI. Its dual purposes are to whitewash the meaning of fascism and to compare slaughtering "sub human groups" to defending humanity against AI. | | |
| ▲ | stinkbeetle 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Does that include those who dehumanize other groups of people by calling them fascists, or is there a "no-backsies" situation going on here? | |
| ▲ | __alexs 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Jreg is not a fascist. He is an anti Zionist jew. This is sort of like calling The Producers fascist propaganda. | | |
| ▲ | noduerme 3 days ago | parent [-] | | This is another troll. I'm Jewish, and last I checked claiming to be Jewish does not exempt anyone from being called a fascist. Tacking "anti-Zionist" onto that, I could name a dozen explicitly fascist organizations which are anti-Zionist off the top of my head. So I don't care what identity the person uses to backfill their ideology, it is still a pure fascist troll. And picking such an identity just makes it more obvious. | | |
| ▲ | __alexs 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Go on then. Name a dozen anti Zionist Jewish run organisations that are explicitly fascist. I'd love to be corrected. Currently your argument seems to be that satirising fascism is actually fascist. Which tbh also seems like a pretty fascist position to hold so I must be wrong. Jreg is not "supposedly taking pride in an anti AI position". He is satirising exactly the thing you call our actual fascists for doing. He is lampooning the kind of nonsense real fascists hide behind. |
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| ▲ | SLWW 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | JREG is the only Canadian I would accept as a Presidential Candidate for the US, and i don't even agree with half of what he says. I just think he'd do a better job than most. | | |
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