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delusional 4 days ago

> So fix your setup? Why should others with wider screens leave space on their screen empty for your sake?

What a terrible attitude to have when working with other people.

"Oh, I'm the only one who writes Python? Fix your setup. why should I, who know python, not write it for your sake?"

"Oh, I'm the only one who speaks German? Fix your setup. Why should I, who know German, not speak it for your sake?"

How about doing it because your colleagues, who you presumably like collaborating with to reach a goal, asks you to?

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balamatom 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

What do you do about the "oh, I'm the only one who cares about [???]? should I just fucking kill myself then?" Many such cases.

>How about doing it because your colleagues, who you presumably like collaborating with to reach a goal, asks you to?

If a someone wants me to do a certain thing in a certain way, they simply have to state it in terms of:

- some benefit they want to achieve

- some drawback they want to avoid

- as little as an acknowledged unexamined preference like "hey I personally feel more comfortable with approach X, how bout we try that instead"

I'm happy to learn from their perspective, and gladly go out of my way to accomodate them. Sometimes even against my better judgment, but hell, I still prefer to err on the side of being considerate. Just like you say, I like to work with people in terms of a shared goal, and just like you do, in every scenario I prefer to assume that's what's going on.

If, however, someone insists on certain approaches while never going deeper in their explanations than arbitrary non-falsifiable qualifiers such as "best practice", "modern", "clean", etc., then I know they haven't actually examined those choices that they now insist others should comply with. They're just parroting whatever version they imagine of industry-wide consensus describes their accidental comfort zone. And then boy do they hate my "make your setup assume less! it's the only way to be sure!". But no, I ain't reifying their meme instead of what I've seen work with my own two.

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delusional 4 days ago | parent [-]

> If, however, someone insists on certain approaches while never going deeper in their explanations than arbitrary non-falsifiable qualifiers such as "best practice", "modern", "clean"

You're moving the goalposts of this discussion. The guy I was responding to said "fix your setup" to another person saying "Your table wrapped for me. The short line equivalent looks best on my screen." That's a stated preference based on a benefit he'd like to achieve.

We are not discussing "best practice" type arguments here.

	▲	balamatom 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		"Best practice" type arguments are the universal excuse for remaining inconsiderate of the fact that different people interact with code differently, but fair enough I guess

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account42 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, I don't think we should discourage people from using Python or German just because you don't want to learn those particular languages either.

Working together with others should not mean having to limit everyone to the lowest common denominator, especially when there are better options for helping those with limitations that don't impact everyone else.