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trod1234 5 days ago

I'm banned from a few subreddits for correctly pointing out that ricing is not a pejorative, and the history of the culture that led to extreme customization.

You have malevolent third-party bots taking advantage of poor moderation to conflate similar/same word different context pairs to silence communication.

For example, the reddit AI bots considers "ricing" to be the same as "rice boy". The latter definitely is pejorative, but the former is not.

Just wild and absolutely crazy-making that this is even allowed, since communication is the primary means to inflict compulsion and torture these days.

Intolerable acts without due process or a rule of law lead to only one possible outcome. Coercion isn't new, but the stupid people are trying their hand for another bite at the apple.

The major platforms will not remain usable because eventually you get this hollowing out of meaning, and this behavior will either drive away all your rational intelligent contributors, or lead to accelerated failures such as evaporative cooling in the social networks. People use things because they provide some amount of value. When that stops being the case, the value disappears not overnight, but within a few months.

Just take a look at the linuxquestions subreddit since the mod exodus. They have a automated trickle of the same questions that don't really get sufficiently answered. Its all slop.

All the experienced people who previously shared their knowledge as charity have moved on because they were driven out by caustic harassment and lack of proper moderation to prevent that. The mod list even hides who the mods are now so people who have had moderated action can't appeal to the Reddit Administrators with the specific moderator who did something as a fascist dictator incapable of basic reading level comprehension common to grade schoolers (AI).

noah_buddy 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

I thought you were going to point out distinct etymology, but these terms do seem linked, no? Not surprising that the shared lineage confers shared problems.

navane 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

I had to Google it, but apparently it comes from cars, where a riced car has stripes and spoilers and such to make it look like a race car.

One source claimed rice was race inspired custum e-forgot, the other did claim a link with asian street racing.

brnaftr361 4 days ago | parent [-]

I expect that r.i.c.e. was overfit. Asian imports are called riceburners, ostensibly because asian cultures consume a lot of rice. I guess it could be contrived as racist, but it's relatively harmless in the scope of things...

I'm speculating further: but the imports were cheap and had a thriving aftermarket of bolt-on parts e.g. body and turbo kits. The low barrier of entry afforded opportunities for anybody to play. Ricing was probably a perjorative issued by domestic enthusiasts that was adopted ironically by Asian import enthusiasts. If you can imagine there was a lot of diversity, people who would bolt up body kits to clapped out Civics to people that would push 700hp with extensively tuned cars with no adornments. I think in particular ricing was the more aesthetically motivated of the crowd.

This was later adopted by computer enthusiasts that like to add embelishments to their desktops, things like rainmeter/rocketdock and Windows/Linux skins and etc...

trod1234 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The two are unconnected, one is used as a pejorative which is racist, the other isn't. This is not a hard distinction to make if you aren't a bot.

<Victim> "I'm ricing my Linux Shell, check it out." <Bot> That's Racist!

<Bot Brigade> Moderator this person is violating your rules and being racist!

<Moderator> I'm just using AI to determine this. <Bot Brigade> Great! Now they can't contribute. Lets find another.

TL;DR Words have specific meanings, and a growing number of words have been corrupted purposefully to prevent communication, and by extension limit communication to the detriment of all. You get the same ultimate outcomes when people do this as any other false claim. Abuses pile up until eventually in the absence of functioning non-violent conflict resolution; violence forces the system to reform.

Have you noticed that your implication is circular based on the indefinite assumption (foregone conclusion) that the two are linked (tightly coupled)?

You use a lot of ambiguous manipulative language and structure. Doing that makes any reasonable person think you are either a bot, or a malicious actor.

bitwize 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Per the Linux Foundation it is inappropriate to speak of programs as "hung" due to the political and social history associated with hanging. What makes you think "ricing" would be considered acceptable language in today's context?

ants_everywhere 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

huh, the past tense of the violent "hang" is "hanged" not "hung". https://www.thefreedictionary.com/hung

"hung" means to "suspend", so the process is suspended

ChrisMarshallNY 5 days ago | parent [-]

It also means … ahem … a well-endowed gentleman.

I’m not sure that AI would necessarily make that mistake, but a semilterate mod, very much could.

I think the real issue is the absolute impossibility of appeal. This is a big problem, for outfits like Google or Microsoft, where stories of businesses being shut down for false positive bans are fairly common.

In my experience, on the other hand, Apple has always been responsive to appeal. I have released a lot of apps, and have had fairly frequent rejections. The process is annoying, because they seldom tell you exactly what caused the rejection, but I usually figure it out, after one or two exchanges. They are almost always word-choice issues, but not bad words. Rather, they don’t like stuff that can step on their brands.

I once had an app rejected, because it had the word “Finder” in its name (it was an app for finding things).

The annoying thing, was that the first rejection said it was because it was a simple re-skinning of a Web site. I’m positive that what happened, was that a human assessor accidentally tapped the wrong button on their dashboard.

blibble 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't remember voting the Linux Foundation into power as global word police

trod1234 5 days ago | parent [-]

I also don't remember voting to allow doublespeak to be the dominant form of definition.

wkat4242 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The Linux Foundation is a bunch of business suits trying to tell the grassroots FOSS community to follow corporate interests. I don't take them seriously.

Just look at their list of directors. It's the fortune 500 right there.