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| ▲ | ra7 5 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| $200 to enable better FSD vs a decade of struggle to get FSD only partially working with $20 cameras. Which one do you think is more expensive overall? |
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| ▲ | weinzierl 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | The fact that we still do not have a significant number of cars with LIDAR on our streets somewhat proves which approach the auto industry considers viable for business. I am much more curious about the next ten years. If we can bring down the cost of a LIDAR unit into parity with camera systems[1], I think I know the answer. But I thought that 10 years ago and it did not happen so I wonder what is the real roadblock to make LIDAR cheap. [1] Which it won't replace, of course. What it will change is that it makes the LIDAR a regular component, not an exceptionally expensive component. | | |
| ▲ | xnx 3 days ago | parent [-] | | The fact that the only working self driving system uses LIDAR might say even more. |
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| ▲ | xnx 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | 1) make it work 2) make it right 3) make it fast (or cheap in this case) Elon thinks his genius intellect allows him to skip to #3. |
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| ▲ | D-Coder 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > $200 is still a lot when a bunch of cameras cost maybe $20. Anything except the lowest end car will cost $20K or more, so $200 is one percent of that price. |
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| ▲ | suddenexample 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I mean, I'd rather be building a $30,200 robotaxi that works than a $30,020 robotaxi that doesn't. |
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| ▲ | weinzierl 5 days ago | parent [-] | | You won't get rich with a $30,200 robotaxi, you won't even have a viable business. The game is the mass market and there the usual unit of currency is not cents, its tenth of cents. | | |
| ▲ | anthem2025 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Even if your robotaxi only manages 2000 rides that’s still down to just 10 cents a ride to cover the cost of hardware. It’s nothing. | | |
| ▲ | weinzierl 2 days ago | parent [-] | | All taxis are variants of mass produced cars, that will not be different for robotaxis. The mass market is the enabler and there every tenth of cent counts. |
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