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| ▲ | uoaei 5 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| That's not engineering, that's industry. It's important to distinguish the two. |
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| ▲ | revnode 5 days ago | parent [-] | | Engineering only exists within industry. Everything else is a hobby. | | |
| ▲ | uoaei 5 days ago | parent [-] | | That's simply not true. Engineering can exist outside industry. "Stuff costs money" is not a governing aspect of these kinds of things. FOSS is the obvious counterexample to your absurdly firm stance, but so are many artistic pursuits that use engineering techniques and principles, etc. | | |
| ▲ | revnode 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Industry includes FOSS and artistic endeavors, anything that’s done professionally. My intent was to exclude research efforts, which is fundamentally different from engineering, which is a practical concern and not a “get it to just work” concern. | | |
| ▲ | uoaei 4 days ago | parent [-] | | That's an interesting question, the question of whether engineering per se is strictly pragmatic. I personally think drawing a hard line between research and engineering is a misstep and relies too heavily on a bureaucratic kind of metaphysics. |
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| ▲ | waldarbeiter 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| If it would be easy there would already be a car costing a few million that few can afford but that has solved AD. But there isn't. |
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| ▲ | revnode 5 days ago | parent [-] | | There is no market for such a thing. At that price point, you get a personal chauffeur. That’s what rich people do and he can do stuff that a self driving system never can. | | |
| ▲ | tialaramex 5 days ago | parent [-] | | And the rich people who don't want a chauffeur like driving the car. They will buy a $10M car no problem, but they want driving that car to be fun because that's what they were paying for. They don't want you to make the driving more automatic and less interesting. |
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