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jagermo 5 days ago

Huh, i see a bunch of used Renault Zoes for about 5k or less in my area. I wonder if they hold up as well.

KaiserPro 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Zoes are fine, so long as they have fast charge and are the last generation (52kwhr)

The software is pretty shit. Lagging and annoying. But apple/android play stops that.

As a car its smooth, quiet, and fast if you need to be. The only annoyance driving wise is that it doesn't have adaptive cruise control, and the reverse/drive/neutral switch always returns to the middle, so you can't tell what mode its set to without looking at it

wazoox 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It depends. Zoés come in many flavours, with different sizes of battery (52kWh is the best, the same size as current Renault models R4 and R5), rented or bought (don't buy a Zoé with a rental battery!!!), and the CCS2 port is in option (no CCS-2 effectively means no day trip longer than full range, unless you have the 22kW AC option, but still... you'll need to find a 22 kW charger en route, not that easy).

Battery management on Zoés is fine ; it doesn't have the overheating problem that plagues the Leaf and the VW e-Up in particular; it doesn't have the "very slow charge when cold" problem of many cheap EVs with LiFePO4 batteries, though it charges up quite slowly (10-80% in 50 minutes).

Someone I know recently bought a 135HP 52kWh Zoé without CCS-2 and 22kW AC charge for 7500€. That's a real bargain, it'sequivalent for all practical purposes (but long travel) to a brand new 30000€ R5 :)

yourusername 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

A lot of Zoes i see for sale are with a rental or lease battery. So be sure to check if that 5k includes a battery or not.