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Launch HN: Datafruit (YC S25) – AI for DevOps
63 points by nickpapciak a day ago | 40 comments

Hey HN! We’re Abhi, Venkat, Tom, and Nick and we are building Datafruit (https://datafruit.dev/), an AI DevOps agent. We’re like Devin for DevOps. You can ask Datafruit to check your cloud spend, look for loose security policies, make changes to your IaC, and it can reason across your deployment standards, design docs, and DevOps practices.

Demo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FitSggI7tg.

Right now, we have two main methods to interact with Datafruit:

(1) automated infrastructure audits— agents periodically scan your environment to find cost optimization opportunities, detect infrastructure drift, and validate your infra against compliance requirements.

(2) chat interface (available as a web UI and through slack) — ask the agent questions for real-time insights, or assign tasks directly, such as investigating spend anomalies, reviewing security posture, or applying changes to IaC resources.

Working at FAANG and various high-growth startups, we realized that infra work requires an enormous amount of context, often more than traditional software engineering. The business decisions, codebase, and cloud itself are all extremely important in any task that has been assigned. To maximize the success of the agents, we do a fair amount of context engineering. Not hallucinating is super important!

One thing which has worked incredibly well for us is a multi-agent system where we have specialized sub-agents with access to specific tool calls and documentation for their specialty. Agents choose to “handoff” to each other when they feel like another agent would be more specialized for the task. However, all agents share the same context (https://cognition.ai/blog/dont-build-multi-agents). We’re pretty happy with this approach, and believe it could work in other disciplines which require high amounts of specialized expertise.

Infrastructure is probably the most mission-critical part of any software organization, and needs extremely heavy guardrails to keep it safe. Language models are not yet at the point where they can be trusted to make changes (we’ve talked to a couple of startups where the Claude Code + AWS CLI combo has taken their infra down). Right now, Datafruit receives read-only access to your infrastructure and can only make changes through pull requests to your IaC repositories. The agent also operates in a sandboxed virtual environment so that it could not write cloud CLI commands if it wanted to!

Where LLMs can add significant value is in reducing the constant operational inefficiencies that eat up cloud spend and delay deadlines—the small-but-urgent ops work. Once Datafruit indexes your environment, you can ask it to do things like:

  "Grant @User write access to analytics S3 bucket for 24 hours"
    -> Creates temporary IAM role, sends least-privilege credentials, auto-revokes tomorrow

  "Find where this secret is used so I can rotate it without downtime"
    -> Discovers all instances of your secret, including old cron-jobs you might not know about, so you can safely rotate your keys


  "Why did database costs spike yesterday?"
    -> Identifies expensive queries, shows optimization options, implements fixes

We charge a straightforward subscription model for a managed version, but we also offer a bring-your-own-cloud model. All of Datafruit can be deployed on Kubernetes using Helm charts for enterprise customers where data can’t leave your VPC. For the time being, we’re installing the product ourselves on customers' clouds. It doesn’t exist in a self-serve form yet. We’ll get there eventually, but in the meantime if you’re interested we’d love for you guys to email us at founders@datafruit.dev.

We would love to hear your thoughts! If you work with cloud infra, we are especially interested in learning about what kinds of work you do which you wish could be offloaded onto an agent.

0xbadcafebee a day ago | parent | next [-]

As someone who's been doing Infra stuff for two decades, this is very exciting. There is a lot of mindless BS we have to deal with due to shitty tools and services, and AI could save us a lot of time that we'd rather use to create meaningful value.

There is still benefit for non-Infra people. But non-Infra people don't understand system design, so the benefits are limited. Imagine a "mechanic AI". Yes, you could ask it all sorts of mechanic questions, and maybe it could even do some work on the car. But if you wanted to, say, replace the entire engine with a different one, that is a systemic change and has farther reaching implications than an AI will explain, much less perform competently. You need a mechanic to stop you and say, uh, no, please don't change the engine; explain to me what you're trying to do and I'll help you find a better solution. Then you need a real mechanic to manage changing the tires on the moving bus so it doesn't crash into the school. But having an AI could make the mechanic do all of that smoother.

Another thing I'd love to see more AI use of, is people asking the AI for advice. Most devs seem to avoid asking Infra people for architectural/design advice. This leads to them putting together a system using their limited knowledge, and it turns out to be an inferior design to what an Infra person would have suggested. Hopefully they will ask AI for advice in the future.

nickpapciak 21 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Glad you find it interesting. A surprising way people are using us right now has been people who are technical but don’t have deep infrastructure expertise, asking datafruit questions about how stuff should be done.

Something we’ve been dealing with is trying to get the agents to not over-complicate their designs, because they have a tendency to do so. But with good prompting they can be very helpful assistants!

0xbadcafebee 18 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah it's def gonna be hard. So much of engineering is an amalgam of contexts, restrictions, intentions, best practice, and what you can get away with. An agent honed by a team of experts to keep all those things in mind (and force the user to answer important questions) would be invaluable.

Might be good to train multiple "personalities": one's a startup codebro that will tell you the easiest way to do anything; another will only give you the best practice and won't let you cheat yourself. Let the user decide who they want advice from.

Going further: input the business's requirements first, let that help decide? Just today I was on a call where somebody wants to manually deploy a single EC2 instance to run a big service. My first question is, if it goes down and it takes 2+ days to bring it back, is the business okay with that? That'll change my advice.

nickpapciak 18 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes definitely! That's why we do believe the agents, for the time being, will act as great junior devs that you can offload work onto, while as they get better they can slowly get promoted into more active roles.

The personalities approach sounds fun to experiment with. I'm wondering if you could use SAEs to scan for a "startup codebro" feature in language models. Alas this is not something we get to look into until we think that fine-tuning our own models is the best way to make them better. For now we are betting on in-context learning.

Business requirements are also incredibly valuable. Notion, Slack, and Confluence hold a lot of context, but it can be hard to find. This is something that I think the subagents architecture is great for though.

paool 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Funnily enough, the same scenario holds true for actual programmers vs vibe coders.

Even if you manage to prompt an app, you'll still have no idea how the system works.

cddotdotslash a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I can see the value, but to do the things you're describing, the AI needs to be given fairly highly-privileged credentials.

> Right now, Datafruit receives read-only access to your infrastructure

> "Grant @User write access to analytics S3 bucket for 24 hours" > -> Creates temporary IAM role, sends least-privilege credentials, auto-revokes tomorrow

These statements directly conflict with one another.

So it needs "iam:CreateRole," "iam:AttachPolicy," and other similar permissions. Those are not "read-only." And, they make it effectively admin in the account.

What safeguards are in place to make sure it doesn't delete other roles, or make production-impacting changes?

nickpapciak a day ago | parent [-]

Ahh. To clarify, changes like granting users access would be done by our agent modifying IaC, so you would still have to manually apply the changes. Every potentially destructive change being an IaC change helps allow the humans to always stay in the loop. This admittedly makes the agents a little more annoying to work with, but safer.

Kwpolska 21 hours ago | parent [-]

So you’re modifying Terraform? How is your tool better than just using an AI-enabled IDE and asking it to apply the change?

How is the auto-revoke handled? Will it require human intervention to merge a PR/apply the Terraform configuration, or will it do it automatically?

nickpapciak 19 hours ago | parent [-]

Lots of people have asked us this! We try to do more than just being an AI-enabled IDE by giving the agent access to your infrastructure and observability tools. So you can query over your AWS, get information about metrics over the past few days, etc etc. We also plan to integrate with more DevOps tools as our customers ask for them. We also try to be less like an IDE, and more like an autonomous agent. We've noticed that DevOps engineers actually like being engineers, and enjoy some infrastructure tasks, while there are others that they would rather automate away. Not sure if you have experienced this sentiment?

Also, auto-revoke right now can be handled by creating a role in Terraform that can be assumed and expires after a certain time. But we’re exploring deeper integrations with identity providers like Okta to handle this better.

OliverGuy 10 hours ago | parent [-]

I can put some AWS Creds in my terminal and Claude Code is perfectly happy writing AWS CLI commands (or whole python scripts if necessary) to work out what it needs to about my infrastructure.

primitivesuave a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

IMO it is a smart decision to implement this as a self-hosted system, and have the AI make PRs against the IaC configuration - for devops matters, human-in-the-loop is a high priority. I'm curious how well this would work if I'm using Pulumi or the AWS CDK (both are well-known to LLMs).

I consulted for an early stage company that was trying to do this during the GPT-3 era. Despite the founders' stellar reputation and impressive startup pedigree, it was exceedingly difficult to get customers to provide meaningful read access to their AWS infrastructure, let alone the ability to make changes.

nickpapciak a day ago | parent [-]

LLMs are pretty awesome at Terraform, probably because there is just so much training data. They are also pretty good at the AWS CDK and Pulumi to a bit of a lesser extent, but I think giving them access to documentation is what helps make them the most accurate. Without good documentation the models start to hallucinate a bit.

And yeah, we are noticing that it’s difficult to convince people to give us access to their infrastructure. I hope that a BYOC model will help with that.

elpakal 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Congrats on the launch. As a former CI build engineer, I’m very curious about this and look forward to watching your progress. One question

> we’ve talked to a couple of startups where the Claude Code + AWS CLI combo has taken their infra down

Do you care to share what language model(s) you use?

nickpapciak 21 hours ago | parent [-]

Thank you! We currently mainly use Claude Sonnet and then Opus for more difficult tasks. We experimented with GPT 5 when it came out but we might need to do some more experiments to see if it’s better. Better evals is something we are working on before we experiment too much with different models!

debarshri a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think you are under estimating the nuances you have in non faang infrastructure. Also, based on my previous experience you will meet with developer resistance (may be AI can help you beat that). By being broad you also competing with purpose built solution like finops, devsecops etc. Who also seems to have agents now.

It is workflow automation in the end of the day. I would rather pick SOAR or AI-SOC where automation like this is very common. For eg blinkops or torq.

nickpapciak a day ago | parent [-]

That's fair. For what it's worth, our agents are being used by small startups in the YC batch and they have been helpful for them.

We have not spent as much time working in the security space, and I do think that purpose-built solutions are better if you only care about security. We are purposefully trying to stay broad, which might mean that our agents lack depth in specific verticals.

debarshri a day ago | parent [-]

I wouldnt index on these startups. People who would pay big bucks are in enterprise. Thats largely your market.

nickpapciak a day ago | parent [-]

Totally agree, enterprise is where the most $ is to be made, but from what we've found they care a lot about doing one specific thing very well. This has been something we've been thinking about. For now we've enjoyed working with startups as they have very interesting challenges that only appear at smaller scale.

debarshri 21 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm very excited about your company. Would be fun to chat about GTM with you guys.

nickpapciak 21 hours ago | parent [-]

Would love to! I think I just found and added you on LinkedIn

Kwpolska 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> (1) automated infrastructure audits— agents periodically scan your environment to find cost optimization opportunities, detect infrastructure drift, and validate your infra against compliance requirements.

Why does that need an AI? I’m pretty sure many tools for those things exist, and they predate LLMs.

nickpapciak 19 hours ago | parent [-]

Glad you mentioned this! We do use open source rule-based scanners internally to make it more deterministic. This is also a new feature, and we'd probably want to integrate with existing tools rather than competing with them. We do think there are some benefits of using LLMs though.

I think the power language models introduce is being able to more tightly integrate app-code with the infrastructure. They can read YAML, shell scripts, or ad-hoc wiki policies and map them to compliance checks, for example.

tealpod 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sounds good.

BTW, your website is heavy, for a basic set of components it shouldn't be taking 100% CPU.

Albert-Lam 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Congrats on the launch! Excited to see you guys adopt a BYOC distribution model

nickpapciak 18 hours ago | parent [-]

thank you!

roggenbuck 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Really great stuff! Congrats on the launch!

vivzkestrel a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

there have been a lot of attempts to make products like these but this kinda product almost always only one problem. nobody really is sure about the access privileges it requires to operate and what it does on its backend with such privileges

nickpapciak a day ago | parent [-]

That's an interesting approach. For us, we give it read-only privileges which gives the agent the context of your infrastructure, without giving it the capabilities to break things. But I do see a world where we give it more access, but add additional safeguards.

solatic 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My 2 cents (DevOps Engineer with a decade of experience, MBA, optimistic about tools like Claude Code and pessimistic about what I'm seeing here):

You need to be very clear about the persona who you're building for, what their pain point is, and why they're willing to spend money to solve it. So far it seems like you took an emerging technology (agentic workflows), applied it to a novel area (DevOps), built a UX around it, and tried to immediately start selling. This is the product trap of a solution in search of a problem.

Are you trying to sell to large companies? The problem that large companies have is cultural/organizational, not tooling. For any change, you need to get about a dozen people to review, understand, wait for people to come back from vacation, ping people because it fell off their desk, sign off, get them to prioritize, answer questions again from the engineer the task was assigned to, wait for another round of reviews and approvals, and maybe finally somebody will get the fix applied in production. DevOps is (or at least, it originally used to be) focused on finding and alleviating the bottlenecks; the actual process of finding data or applying changes is not the bottleneck in large companies and so therefore it is not a solution to the pain point that different folk in large companies have. If your value proposition is that large company executives could replace Infrastructure employee salaries with a cheaper agentic workflow, you need to re-read my prior point - if large companies have all this process and approvals for human beings making changes, why would they ever let an agentic workflow YOLO the changes without approval? And yes, I know, your agent proposes Terraform PRs for making changes to keep a human in the loop - but now you slayed one of the Hydra's heads and three more have popped up in its place: the customer needs the Terraform PR to be reviewed by a human committee, some of whose members are on vacation, some of whose members missed the PR request because they had other priorities and it fell off their desk, etc. etc. Doesn't really sound like you solved anything. The fundamental difference between what you built and something like Claude Code is that Claude Code doesn't need a human committee to review on every iteration it executes on an engineer's laptop, only the review of the One Benevolent Laptop User who is incentivized to get good output from Claude Code and provide human review as quickly as (literally) humanly possible.

Are you trying to sell to small companies that don't have DevOps Engineers? What's the competitive space here? The options usually look something like, (a) pay a premium for a PaaS, (b) spend on the salary for your first DevOps Engineer in the hopes that they will save more on low-level infra bills compared to their salary, so you're posing now (c) some kind of DevOps agentic workflow that is cheaper than a DevOps Engineer salary but will provide similar infra cost savings? So your agentic workflow will actually lift and shift to better/cheaper infra primitives and own day-to-day maintenance, responding to infra issues which your customers - who aren't DevOps Engineers, and don't know anything about infra, and are trying to outsource these concerns to you - which your customers don't know how to handle? I would argue that if you really did achieve that, then you should be building an agentic-workflow-maintained PaaS that, by virtue of using agents instead of humans, can undercut traditional PaaS on cost while offering a maybe better UX somehow. If you're asking your customers to review infra changes that they don't understand, then they need to hire a DevOps Engineer for the expertise to review it, and then you have a much less interesting value proposition.

nickpapciak 10 hours ago | parent [-]

That’s actually a really interesting point. We started out building out basically an “agentic PaaS” exactly as you described, but quickly found difficulty in securing more customers and moving up-market (from seed stage to series A+) for it. Because a PaaS did not have sufficient abstractions + the customers were too afraid to give us control, because even if it was their cloud, if we went under there was a sense that they “lost” their deployment platform. (This was the sentiment we were able to piece together from talking to many people).

Right now most of our value, as you said, is in augmenting an infra engineer at a growth stage company to limit some of the operational burdens they deal with. For the companies we’ve been selling to, the customers are SWEs who have been forced to learn infra when needs arise. But overall they are fairly competent and technical. And Claude code or other agentic coding tools are not always sufficient or safe to use. Our customers have told us anecdotally that Claude code gets stuck in a hallucination loop of nothingness on certain tasks and that Datafruit was able to solve them.

That being said, we have lost sales because people are content with Claude code. So this is something we are thinking about.

stackskipton 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As SRE/Ops person, sigh checks the founder list and starts internally screaming

YC, you want founders of this companies to have 10 years working at Ford Motor Company. It's all reasons I want to write my blog article of "FAANG, please STFU. I wish I could be focused on 100k Requests per Second but instead I'm dealing with engineers who has no idea why their ORM is creating terrible query. Please stop telling them about GraphQL."

"Grant @User write access to analytics S3 bucket for 24 hours" Can the user even have access to this? Do they need write access or can't understand why they are getting errors on read? What happens when they forget in 30 days they asked your LLM for access and now their application does not work because they decided to borrow this S3 bucket instead of asking for one of their own. Yes this happened.

"Find where this secret is used so I can rotate it without downtime" Well, unless you are scanning all our Github repos, Kubernetes secret and containers, you are going to miss the fact this secret was manually loaded into Kubernetes/loaded into flat file in Docker container or stored in some random secret manager none of us are even aware of.

""Why did database costs spike yesterday?" -> Identifies expensive queries, shows optimization options, implements fixes

How? Likely it's because bad schema or lack of understanding with ORMs. Fix is going to be some PR somewhere to Dev who probably does not understand what they are reviewing.

Most of our headaches is the fact that Devs almost never give a shit about Ops, their bosses don't give a shit about Ops and Ops is trying desperately to keep this train which is on fire from derailing. We don't need AI YOLOing more stuff into Prod, we need AI to tell their bosses what downtime they are causing is costing our company so maybe, just maybe, they will actually care.

nickpapciak 18 hours ago | parent [-]

These are fair criticisms. I will say, while each of these examples are challenging problems for agents to carry out, I do believe they can be solved. Especially with a tighter integration with app code.

We are always trying to learn more based on our customer's feedback. What we've learned so far is that infra setups are all extremely different, and what works for some companies don't work for others. There's also vastly different company cultures related to ops. Some companies value their ops team a lot, other companies burden them with way too much work. Our goal is to try to make that burden a little lighter :)

stackskipton 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I agree they are challenging problems but as others have pointed out, most of infrastructure problems are political so AI is not as helpful. Not to mention depending on our setup, your system would need to be involved in EVERYTHING which InfoSec is going to brittle at.

Writing Terraform is not hard part for this Ops person, if I wanted to use AI, Copilot can easily write it no problem but I'm pretty fast enough these days. Devs of course could use to write Terraform but we are back to the problem of they have no idea what they are asking for.

Maybe my larger organization is not your target market, maybe it's places without dedicated Ops person but at that point, AI that can manage Kubernetes/PaaS for them would be more useful than another TerraForm AI bot.

rapind a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Translation: The AWS interface is so horrendously complicated that we now need an AI to navigate it.

Also, as a daily AI user (claude code / codex subs), I'm not sure I want YOLO AIs anywhere near my infra.

devjab a day ago | parent | next [-]

We use Azure and sometimes Hetzner. I don't think Azure is a bad product, but it sometimes amazes me just how many different ways they can let you buy something as simple as a "load balancer". Azure obviously has some services that Hetzner does not, a lot, but as far as 95% of what we need in our cloud infra Hetzner does just fine and it's soooooooo much simpler.

I don't mind letting AI's help with infra, but it's with the configs and infra as code files and it will never have any form of access to anything outside it's little box. It's significantly faster at writing out the port ranges for an FTP (don't ask) ingress than I can by hand.

nickpapciak a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

AWS has created a whole economy of companies whose job is to make the dashboard more tolerable. Hopefully our agents help with that haha.

GuinansEyebrows a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> Translation: The AWS interface is so horrendously complicated that we now need an AI to navigate it.

that's because infrastructure is complicated. the AWS console isn't that bad (it's not great, and you should just use terraform whenever possible because clickops is dull, error-prone work); there's just a lot to know in order to deploy infrastructure cost-effectively.

this is more like "we don't want to hire infra engineers who know what they're doing so here's a tool to make suggestions that a knowledgeable engineer would make, vet and apply. just Trust Us."

mdaniel 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've always heard the theory that if you're not ashamed of your launch announcement then you've launched too late, but a page with just "Book a Call" is stretching the plausibility for who could possibly be in the target demographic

I know dang is going to shake his finger at me for this, but come on.

Also:

> AWS emulator

isn't doing you any favors. I, too, have tried localstack and I can tell you first hand it is not an AWS emulator. That doesn't even get into the fact that AWS is not DevOps so what's up: is it AWS only or does it have GCP Emulation, too?

That's my whole point about the leading observation: without proper expectation management, how could anyone who spots this Launch HN possibly know if they should spend the time to book a call with you?

dang 13 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm not sure I understand the criticism here, but let me try to address what I think you (might?) mean, and I hope it doesn't come across as shaking a finger!

You're right that the bar is higher for Launch HNs (I wrote about this here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39633270) - but it's not uncommon for a startup to have a working product and real customers and yet have a home page that just says "book a call".

For some early-stage startups it makes sense to focus on iterating rapidly based on feedback from a few customers, and to defer building what used to be called the "whole product" (including self-serve features, a complete website, etc.) until later. It's simply about prioritizing higher-risk things and deferring lower-risk things.

I believe this is especially true for enterprise products, since deployment, onboarding, etc. are more complex and usually require personal interaction (at least in the early stages).

In such cases, a Launch HN can still make sense because the startup is real, the product is real, and there are real customers. But since the product can't be tried out publicly, I tell the founders they need a good demo video, and I usually tell them to add to their text an explanation of why the product isn't publicly available yet, as well as an invitation to contact them if people want to know more or want to be an early adopter. (You'll notice that both of those things are present in the text above!)

mambo_giro a day ago | parent | prev [-]

https://www.adafruit.com/trademarks

https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/search/likelihood-confusion

> Trademarks don’t have to be identical to be confusingly similar. Instead, they could just be similar in sound, appearance, or meaning, or could create a similar commercial impression.