| ▲ | quantummagic a day ago |
| The government isn't going to save us, they love it and are in bed with these corporations; the more control, the better. Locked down computing, no anonymity online, the threat of losing banking/credit accounts, and authorities showing up to arrest you if you challenge the current dogma too strongly. We're so cooked. |
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| ▲ | solid_fuel a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| Our politicians are bought and owned, and it's hard to expect anything else after Citizens United. If we want a government to serve and protect us we must ensure that our politicians actually represent us. |
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| ▲ | tetris11 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| About a year ago, I looked at my collection of old phones and laptops and smirked at my needless hoarding. Now? I feel like I'm sitting on gold by keeping these cheap dumb devices around. |
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| ▲ | npteljes 19 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I'd still consider it hoarding. Depending on how old they are, phones have diminishing network compatibility, and cheap, dumb devices are in production still, and will be for the indefinite future. So it's not like they are a resource that the world has run out of. Old laptops age better, but it's not like anyone restricts software on laptops, or will ever be able. | |
| ▲ | Telaneo a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | 2G and 3G networks are already being dismantled, if not already gone, in several parts of the world. Even if you do want to stick to those devices out of principle, you often can't, or if you can, only for maybe 5 more years. You can still buy equivalent dumb phones, but they aren't any more open than the rest of the rabble. Laptops are a different story, although I believe part of that battle was already lost when the Intel SSM and AMD equivalent came around. We'll see how things go when banks start to require you to enable (In)Secure Boot just to be able to log in through a browser on a PC. | |
| ▲ | bonoboTP a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Until they deprecate old SIM cards and make new ones that refuse to work in legacy phones. | | |
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| ▲ | isaacremuant a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| We are not cooked. You only need to recognize that covid policies were theater and enabled them to rapidly advance in this direction and that the typical cultural left/right bullshit is a distraction. If people stop the bullshit it's not that hard to effectively oppose |
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| ▲ | solid_fuel a day ago | parent | next [-] | | What "covid policy" do you think contributed to Google locking down their device? Can you point to some of these "covid policies" and explain how it relates to this? | | |
| ▲ | isaacremuant a day ago | parent [-] | | Authoritianism based on an emergenc that prevents civil rights such as freedom of assembly and movement. Censorship. Lockdown. Those set the tone. Media and corporations that need to censor what people say to combat disinformation. Later we get the wet dream of surveillance with V passports. Social credit style. If you watched the ads companies were trying, you would've seen it. But of course you're going to call me a conspiracy theorists just like it happened back then. Locking down your devices, putting age restrictions and therefore digital id and no privacy to access the internet, it's all pretty convenient. But hey, Google is doing this all for your own good, or they aren't and the good EU will stop them because there's no way they'd like control. | | |
| ▲ | const_cast 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | These trends in Authoritanism began in the early 2000s with the patriot act. Its been a very slow boil since then, with more and more freedoms given up and censored in search of "security". | | |
| ▲ | isaacremuant 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Oh yeah. The "war against terror" post twin towers was definitely a huge milestone in the war against civil rights and featured much of the theater we were going to see in the posterior 24 years. |
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| ▲ | bigyabai a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Non-sequitur. Covid policies weren't used to damage my online security or manufacture my consent for digital change. If you're going to use unrelated discussions to launder your conspiracy theory, at least provide evidence. Otherwise we get to dismiss you without trial which is faster but less fun. | | |
| ▲ | isaacremuant a day ago | parent [-] | | Yes. They were. V passports. Censorship of so called disinformation. I don't give a flying fuck if you dismiss me. You already did in 2020, 2021 and so on and I'm still here, didn't you? Now I get to see you move uncomfortably while still ready to lick the next boot. Enjoy it. | | |
| ▲ | bigyabai a day ago | parent | next [-] | | You can be as sick and infected as you want, on the property you own. On public property, it is the state's foremost priority to ensure you aren't threatening other people's lives. My taxpayer dollars go towards ensuring you aren't killing my family and friends, be it with a gun or a virus. So yeah, your comment was completely unrelated as phones aren't public property. I don't expect to be able to control the DMV or my local Kroger, but I absolutely do expect my phone to behave as-advertised. | | |
| ▲ | account42 13 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | As someone who never got COVID I was still subject to restrictions of my freedoms. Why should I have less rights to free movement than those tho engage in risky activities that got them sick multiple times just because they got a paper saying that they are obedient? | | |
| ▲ | bigyabai 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | Because the people holding the papers have taken a shot and been quarantined for 14 days? They could have gotten Covid 20 times, if they don't show any symptoms and have the vaccine then they aren't posing any threat. You are the largest transmission vector in this scenario, all the pastry shops and ghost tours you got kicked out of were justified. |
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| ▲ | isaacremuant 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Your first paragraph is bullshit. It's always something. "Your ideas kill me, they must be stopped". Terrorism, disease, children's safety, drugs, etc. No emergency justifies it because emergencies have a tendency of staying forever, entrenched in law, long after the perceived emergency has been forgotten. Funniest thing was, you wanted to quarantine and oppress the healthy. You also didn't quarantine and oppress the rich or your politicians who didn't abide by their own theater. No, the coward man went along with the excuses and screamed murder at the sky. Just like in history, you accuse groups of people of being "a disease" to suppress them. Google that, will ya? As for risks, I posit you're a risk to me, with your hellbent intent of locking me up because I don't follow your theater. Should I ban you from society? Engage in state punishment and suppression like you wanted? Stop killing your family and friends. My taxpayer dollars go to not breaking the social contract and you not killing people with your ideas. Cease and desist killing people. You'll murderer. Oh, see how easy it is to just say those things? Now argue in the real world. We're not in 2020 anymore. | | |
| ▲ | const_cast 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Now argue in the real world. We're not in 2020 anymore. Disease actually kills people. I know that makes you uncomfortable and you'd like to live in an alternative reality where you can do whatever and cause no harm, but come back down to Earth. 1 million Americans died from Covid. Our policies caused some of that. Selfish people caused some of that. Everyone, including you, is partially responsible for those deaths. That's uncomfortable, and it's hard to hear, but it is also indisputable. The sooner you come to terms with the reality we live in, the sooner your mind can heal. | | |
| ▲ | isaacremuant 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Stop projecting. It doesn't make me uncomfortable. It makes you uncomfortable or you wouldn't try to do bullshit theater to achieve "total security". > Selfish people caused some of that Lol. Fuck off with this tired bullshit. This fake accusation of murder when thanks to your moronic policies economic hardships have caused much more hurt around the world. And let's not start on the undetected cancer and other treatments. You're just repeating the same old propaganda. Anyone who disagrees with your theater, which was disproven then and now, is a murderer. Go stop genocide that your country is either perpetrating or supporting and then we will talk about "murder". |
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| ▲ | spwa4 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Are you even a real person. I mean, does anyone actually "think" like this? | | |
| ▲ | isaacremuant 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes. But they're censored or self censor and then basic people like you ask these types of questions. Are you even real or just a non player character with 3 pro authoritian dialogues? Do you even have personal opinions? |
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| ▲ | fruitworks a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Not really. People got debanked all the time for political reasons in the last 10 years | |
| ▲ | quantummagic a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Not in Canada. People lost access to their bank accounts for donating to the wrong political protest, ie. the trucker convoy. And worldwide, people are losing access to their Paypal banking option, if they transgress Paypal's opinion on good taste. Seems each western country is taking the forefront in one aspect of the destruction of political and social freedom; with the worst, so far, being the UK. | | |
| ▲ | tavavex a day ago | parent [-] | | Canada doesn't have a direct, systematic way of blocking these transactions in the same way how other western countries are building up their systems. Your example was only made possible after the invocation of the Emergencies Act, which was shortly repealed. Whether using the EA was justified is still hotly debated, but most Ottawans living there at the time would agree that it was. This wasn't just a "wrong political protest", like the government punished people for having the wrong political opinion. Right-wing and far-right protests happen all the time in a political place like Ottawa. The issue here was the scale and the intensity - it was less a defined protest event and more of an attempt to settle in Ottawa for an indeterminate amount of time, complete with harassing locals while demanding accommodation to not freeze in the winter nights. I wouldn't be surprised if those "peaceful protestors" gave a lot of the downtown residents hearing or lung damage. The restrictions that came into effect then seem more like the exception than the rule, the government isn't by default authorized to do whatever. Even in something that had so little support, the pushback against the government's response was considerable. So I wouldn't portray any of it as something systemic or easy to do, like what some other nations are building up in their push towards authoritarianism. I agree that in general the world is moving towards more authoritarianism and control in all facets, but I think Canada is still solidly lagging behind their friends in the UK, US, Australia and some EU countries. We still have no internet censorship authority. There is still hope to push back internet regulation a bit, even though it's obvious it won't last forever. The bills to clamp down will just be reintroduced over and over again until one of them passes. Still, banking bans are unlikely to come anytime soon, unless the people decide to threaten a whole city and the national government by putting on another J6 reenactment. |
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