We are not cooked. You only need to recognize that covid policies were theater and enabled them to rapidly advance in this direction and that the typical cultural left/right bullshit is a distraction.

If people stop the bullshit it's not that hard to effectively oppose

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solid_fuel a day ago | parent | next [-]

What "covid policy" do you think contributed to Google locking down their device? Can you point to some of these "covid policies" and explain how it relates to this?

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isaacremuant a day ago | parent [-]

Authoritianism based on an emergenc that prevents civil rights such as freedom of assembly and movement. Censorship. Lockdown. Those set the tone. Media and corporations that need to censor what people say to combat disinformation.

Later we get the wet dream of surveillance with V passports. Social credit style. If you watched the ads companies were trying, you would've seen it. But of course you're going to call me a conspiracy theorists just like it happened back then.

Locking down your devices, putting age restrictions and therefore digital id and no privacy to access the internet, it's all pretty convenient.

But hey, Google is doing this all for your own good, or they aren't and the good EU will stop them because there's no way they'd like control.

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const_cast 8 hours ago | parent [-]

These trends in Authoritanism began in the early 2000s with the patriot act. Its been a very slow boil since then, with more and more freedoms given up and censored in search of "security".

	▲	isaacremuant 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Oh yeah. The "war against terror" post twin towers was definitely a huge milestone in the war against civil rights and featured much of the theater we were going to see in the posterior 24 years.

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bigyabai a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Non-sequitur. Covid policies weren't used to damage my online security or manufacture my consent for digital change.

If you're going to use unrelated discussions to launder your conspiracy theory, at least provide evidence. Otherwise we get to dismiss you without trial which is faster but less fun.

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isaacremuant a day ago | parent [-]

Yes. They were. V passports. Censorship of so called disinformation.

I don't give a flying fuck if you dismiss me. You already did in 2020, 2021 and so on and I'm still here, didn't you?

Now I get to see you move uncomfortably while still ready to lick the next boot.

Enjoy it.

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bigyabai a day ago | parent | next [-]

You can be as sick and infected as you want, on the property you own. On public property, it is the state's foremost priority to ensure you aren't threatening other people's lives. My taxpayer dollars go towards ensuring you aren't killing my family and friends, be it with a gun or a virus.

So yeah, your comment was completely unrelated as phones aren't public property. I don't expect to be able to control the DMV or my local Kroger, but I absolutely do expect my phone to behave as-advertised.

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account42 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

As someone who never got COVID I was still subject to restrictions of my freedoms. Why should I have less rights to free movement than those tho engage in risky activities that got them sick multiple times just because they got a paper saying that they are obedient?

	▲	bigyabai 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Because the people holding the papers have taken a shot and been quarantined for 14 days? They could have gotten Covid 20 times, if they don't show any symptoms and have the vaccine then they aren't posing any threat. You are the largest transmission vector in this scenario, all the pastry shops and ghost tours you got kicked out of were justified.

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isaacremuant 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Your first paragraph is bullshit. It's always something. "Your ideas kill me, they must be stopped".

Terrorism, disease, children's safety, drugs, etc.

No emergency justifies it because emergencies have a tendency of staying forever, entrenched in law, long after the perceived emergency has been forgotten.

Funniest thing was, you wanted to quarantine and oppress the healthy. You also didn't quarantine and oppress the rich or your politicians who didn't abide by their own theater. No, the coward man went along with the excuses and screamed murder at the sky. Just like in history, you accuse groups of people of being "a disease" to suppress them. Google that, will ya?

As for risks, I posit you're a risk to me, with your hellbent intent of locking me up because I don't follow your theater. Should I ban you from society? Engage in state punishment and suppression like you wanted?

Stop killing your family and friends.

My taxpayer dollars go to not breaking the social contract and you not killing people with your ideas. Cease and desist killing people. You'll murderer.

Oh, see how easy it is to just say those things?

Now argue in the real world. We're not in 2020 anymore.

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const_cast 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Now argue in the real world. We're not in 2020 anymore.

Disease actually kills people.

I know that makes you uncomfortable and you'd like to live in an alternative reality where you can do whatever and cause no harm, but come back down to Earth.

1 million Americans died from Covid. Our policies caused some of that. Selfish people caused some of that. Everyone, including you, is partially responsible for those deaths.

That's uncomfortable, and it's hard to hear, but it is also indisputable. The sooner you come to terms with the reality we live in, the sooner your mind can heal.

	▲	isaacremuant 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Stop projecting. It doesn't make me uncomfortable. It makes you uncomfortable or you wouldn't try to do bullshit theater to achieve "total security". > Selfish people caused some of that Lol. Fuck off with this tired bullshit. This fake accusation of murder when thanks to your moronic policies economic hardships have caused much more hurt around the world. And let's not start on the undetected cancer and other treatments. You're just repeating the same old propaganda. Anyone who disagrees with your theater, which was disproven then and now, is a murderer. Go stop genocide that your country is either perpetrating or supporting and then we will talk about "murder".

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spwa4 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Are you even a real person. I mean, does anyone actually "think" like this?

	▲	isaacremuant 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yes. But they're censored or self censor and then basic people like you ask these types of questions. Are you even real or just a non player character with 3 pro authoritian dialogues? Do you even have personal opinions?

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cindyllm a day ago | parent | prev [-]

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