My 8 yo iPhone is perfectly usable, the battery wasn’t expensive or difficult to replace.

gruez a day ago | parent | next [-]

I'm not claiming that they're literally unusable, only that they're unusable by most people's standards. Case in point, when was the last time you've seen a touchid iPhone? The last such device was introduced as recently as 2022 (or 2017 if you only count "mainstream" models). The 2022 model is still in support, and 2017 models were still getting security updates as of 5 months ago, yet virtually nobody uses them. If so many people ditched their iPhones while they're in support, what gains could there possibly be to allow people to flash third party ROMs? I'm sure there's some diehard enthusiasts that'd keep it alive, but as I argued above, it's not going to make a meaningful difference.

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torstenvl a day ago | parent | next [-]

Lots of people use the iPhone SE or are holding onto the iPhone mini 13. Dislocating your thumb to bring up the Control Center is shit. (Reachability and Back Tap are not solutions.)

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Xylakant a day ago | parent | next [-]

The iPhone 13 mini is a faceID device - but I’m holding onto it until the bitter end. But we’ve been using iPhone SE as company phones until they were discontinued- the devices are perfectly usable for all basic use cases.

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gruez a day ago | parent | prev [-]

The internet means it's easy to find "lots" of people for anything. Excluding yourself how many iPhones do you see in the wild have a home button? I'd estimate less than 1 in 20, or 5%. If less than 5% of people are keeping their phones while they're in support, how much e-waste can you possibly divert by allowing third party OS?

	▲	torstenvl a day ago \| parent [-]
		> Excluding yourself how many iPhones do you see in the wild have a home button? I'd estimate less than 1 in 20, or 5%. If less than 5% of people are keeping their phones while they're in support 5% of all iPhone users having a home button does not mean that only 5% of iPhone SE purchasers are keeping their phones, since the population of iPhone SE purchasers is smaller than the population of iPhone users. Let's be conservative and say about 10% of iPhone users ever bought an SE. If SE users now make up about 5% of the iPhone user base, that would mean that about half have kept their devices -- an order of magnitude off from your 5% claim.

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drnick1 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

My iPhone Xs is about 7 years old now, and I haven't replaced the battery yet. I won't buy Apple or Google again though, it's GrapheneOS or bust next.