| ▲ | aix1 5 days ago | |||||||
> At that time my M was a staff level IC TLM with 4 reports who was forcibly converted to EM. I am obviously not disputing your experience, but wanted to mention that this was not the standard pattern. The standard pattern for forced conversion at L6 (Staff) was either 6 or 7 reports (I don't remember exactly). > Principal EM I don't want to be overly pedantic, but there's no Principal EM on Google eng ladders and so it's not entirely clear which level you're referring to. The IC ladder runs Staff SWE (L6) - Senior Staff SWE (L7) - Principal SWE (L8) - Distinguished SWE (L9) The Eng Manager ladder runs EM II (L6) - EM III (L7) - Director (L8) - Senior Director (L9) P.S. I hope I got the EM II/III designations right. I think EM I is L5, though almost never seen in practice. P.P.S. Confusingly, the IC ladder allows a limited number of reports (the limit increases with level). | ||||||||
| ▲ | Thorrez 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||
>> At that time my M was a staff level IC TLM with 4 reports who was forcibly converted to EM. >I am obviously not disputing your experience, but wanted to mention that this was not the standard pattern. The standard pattern for forced conversion at L6 (Staff) was either 6 or 7 reports (I don't remember exactly). I think you're both saying the same thing. By "forcibly converted to EM", I think B-Con was saying the person was given more reports. | ||||||||
| ▲ | B-Con 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
> I am obviously not disputing your experience, but wanted to mention that this was not the standard pattern. The standard pattern for forced conversion at L6 (Staff) was either 6 or 7 reports (I don't remember exactly). Given more reports and forced to be on the EM track. I think 4 is still OK for L6 (L7 can have up to 19!). > I don't want to be overly pedantic, but there's no Principal EM on Google eng ladders and so it's not entirely clear which level you're referring to. I meant L7 EM - I have no idea why I wrote Principal (probably because I was moving too fast), and now it's too late to edit. | ||||||||
| ▲ | johntiger1 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||
Yeah principal EM is confusing here. Wouldn't EM I report to EM II? At Meta it's typically M1 -> M2 | ||||||||
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