Out of curiosity what’s wrong with talking about “the business”? I hear it plenty but I have totally neutral feelings about it.

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motohagiography 4 days ago | parent [-]

it's a passive reference, and kind of a dog's eye view of why things happen. things have concrete causes, with people who want things for specific reasons.

in tech, if you have accepted that tech is inferior and what you have when you aren't valuable, then sure, you're a dog, but if you are engaged in delivering a product that delivers value, there is no separate "the business," just the concrete need that you are a part of, imo.

	▲	wavemode 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		When engineers use vague terms like "execs" and "the business" it's not (necessarily) because they don't care or aren't willing to understand concrete causes and concrete needs. Sometimes it's because the organization lacks transparency, so those causes and needs have been obscured from them (intentionally or unintentionally). To put it another way - they're being treated like a dog, so why is it surprising that they talk like one?