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perihelions 3 days ago

> "They're right to point out that laws like this are primarily motivated by government control of speech. On a recent Times article about the UK's Online Safety Act:"

Err, BlueSky is enthusiastically complying with that one (as you read by clicking through to their corporate statement),

> "We work with regulators around the world on child safety—for example, Bluesky follows the UK's Online Safety Act, where age checks are required only for specific content and features... Mississippi’s new law and the UK’s Online Safety Act (OSA) are very different. Bluesky follows the OSA in the UK. There, Bluesky is still accessible for everyone, age checks are required only for accessing certain content and features, and Bluesky does not know and does not track which UK users are under 18. Mississippi’s law, by contrast, would block everyone from accessing the site—teens and adults—unless they hand over sensitive information, and once they do, the law in Mississippi requires Bluesky to keep track of which users are children."

https://bsky.social/about/blog/08-22-2025-mississippi-hb1126

It's bold of them to attempt to shift the Overton Window in this way ("OSA is actually moderate and we should hold it up as an example of reasonableness to criticize other censorship laws against"). That happened fast.

matthewdgreen 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I think this is weirdly cynical. BlueSky isn't in favor of OSA, they're saying that the Mississippi law is radically worse.

perihelions 2 days ago | parent [-]

Bluesky has never opposed or criticized OSA. Am I over-indexing on that?

Their July 10 blogpost even frames OSA as a collaboration—it's written plain in the title, "Working with [sic] the UK Government to Protect Children Online",

https://bsky.social/about/blog/07-10-2025-age-assurance

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mhh__ 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Bluesky is the nesting place for basically every neurotic middle aged leftist who left twitter. It's sort of their team doing the OSA

The porn and gaming fans are on Reddit

Young versions of the above on Instagram.

razakel 2 days ago | parent [-]

The Conservatives passed the OSA.

mhh__ 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

1) they also brought about net zero, do you think they're so different?

2) labour are absolutely balls deep on this. "If you use a VPN you are either Jimmy saville or worse Nigel farage" says Peter Kyle.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jul/29/peter-kyle-...

The meta point here is that both parties are basically the dregs of the last generation of politicians to not be "native" to the interner and are now having one last go at ramming it into a box (e.g. all the bad stuff is shoved into X dot com) which they can ban.

The thing is there's a decent chance it'll work. We have beaten out any liberal or even conservative sentiment in mass consciousness

antonvs 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> all the bad stuff is shoved into X dot com) which they can ban.

I'm not entirely convinced that's a bad thing.

We need outlets for free speech, but who those outlets are controlled by matters. Look at the impact Murdoch has had over the past many decades. That's what we want to stop.

southernplaces7 2 days ago | parent [-]

>We need outlets for free speech, but who those outlets are controlled by matters.

What kind of nonsense is this? Have you considered the logic of your comment? Free speech is good, but let's reserve the legal right to control who builds platforms for it so that its the "correct" Kind of free speech. Of course there's no risk at all of that being grossly misused to crush real free speech.

For all the Murdoch fear mongering, there's no shortage at all of progressive, left-leaning media publications, news channels and organizations, globally or in any developed, more or less democratic country you care to look at. Would you support a conservative government shaklling them because of claims about their impact?

antonvs 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Governments actively enable people like Murdoch and Musk and their businesses. That's not a requirement to have robust free speech.

jrflowers 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

>The meta point here is that both parties are basically the dregs of the last generation of politicians

No it’s not. That is a completely different point than what you initially made. You specifically called out leftists for causing the OSA and then tried to pivot to saying “by leftists I actually meant everyone” after someone pointed out that your point was invalid because you were factually wrong

mhh__ 2 days ago | parent [-]

The meta- part of that sentence would imply it's a different scale.

And I obviously don't mean "everyone" or I wouldn't have made the distinction.

There is almost zero distinction on social policy between most of the current labour front bench and a Tory wet. Other than the latter being more pro-trans

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like_any_other 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You mean the Tories. Given that they massively increased what was already record-high immigration (while promising the opposite) [1,2], calling them "conservative" is laughable.

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-67506641

[2] https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/05/23/irony-labour-mea...

wkat4242 2 days ago | parent [-]

Conservative is more about their outlook on society right? They appear to be trying to get back to the Victorian age of morality especially sexually.

Better put those hands above the blanket!

Ps: ok those Victorian chastity belts are pretty kinky though, I have to give them that