How can this be any good for Intel? Why is the stock value bumping 6%?

parliament32 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

The CHIPS grants had clawback provisions, which carry risk. This transaction removes that risk, so it's very good news for Intel.

> The existing claw-back and profit-sharing provisions associated with the government’s previously dispersed $2.2 billion grant to Intel under the CHIPS Act will be eliminated to create permanency of capital as the company advances its U.S. investment plans.

	▲	lugu 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		How those 2 billions compare with 10% of Intel?

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dragonwriter 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Because the government having a financial interest in Intel’s success is expected by the market to result in the government acting in Intel’s interest, in order to profit.

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gmd63 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

You would think the US government would be interested in the US government's success, but the past eight months have proven starkly otherwise. What makes one think they will be looking out for Intel's interests any better?

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dllthomas 2 days ago | parent [-]

How can you say they don't care about success? When they got bad numbers they immediately fired the person responsible.

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gmd63 a day ago | parent [-]

Just in case you aren't joking, they did not fire the person responsible for the bad numbers. They fired the person responsible for observing and reporting them.

	▲	dllthomas 16 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I was joking, although it was a gesture at a real thing. I don't know how much they don't care about success, versus caring but being deeply confused about how to reach it, versus in some sense "caring" but prioritizing other things. But regardless, retaliation against bearers of bad news is a great way to horrifically mismanage an organization, and we seem to be seeing it repeatedly from this administration, and it is alarming.

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artursapek 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

They also have a national security interest as well.

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thisisit 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Government now has a vested interest in seeing Intel succeed. And as much as RW debate in bad faith about cutting public funding being good and private entities should pick up the slack etc. there is no bigger catalyst than government policy. Intel can now get preferential policies like bigger tax breaks/holidays, preferential treatment in government contracts, cheaper access to Federal land etc.

In the long term though, at least in hands of the government like the current admin, they will ensure Intel slows down innovation. They will push for every company in US to use Intel chips in one way or the other - national security and what not. Without competition companies often get complacent - not many can match the might of a government and US govt at that. So, yay for national security and nay for Intel becoming innovation powerhouse.

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llllm 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It means Intel is far worse off than publicly acknowledged, and without this it might be worthless.

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Nevermark 3 days ago | parent [-]

It doesn't mean that.

Sometimes, there are returns on investments beyond what an accountant would calculate, but the investment only costs the same. Making stock priced only for normal returns a buy for beneficiaries of said additional returns.

In this case, reducing the risk associated with the imported chip supply.

	▲	llllm 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		lol, buy buy buy buy BOOYAH JIM

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HDThoreaun 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Intel is now a meme stock. The gamestop crew is getting in