| ▲ | Almondsetat 3 days ago |
| Even if prayers were real, this sounds like a huge gimmick. Reciting a prayer while holding a book equals reciting the entire book at once? How absolutely convenient. Who thought of that, a door-to-door salesman? |
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| ▲ | notahacker 3 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Clearly an operations lead tasked with exponential increases in mantra output. In all seriousness, I don't think the average person could have actually read the books when the concept was conceived anyway, so automating the trick of the recipient receiving all the blessings in the book without someone having to read them out would have saved a whole lot of monks' time.... |
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| ▲ | IT4MD 3 days ago | parent [-] | | But look at the consequences. They have zero OpSec! These very manuals are now for sale on the open and dark web and anyone can buy one and start accumulation of karma points! FFS, the chant password has already been distributed and they changed nothing! There is no encryption, it's all plain text at rest. SMH. There is no auth process. Anyone can walk up, grab a prayer turbine and start spinning it for all they are worth. I would not be surprised if I saw a motorcycle, on it's side, with the drive wheel touching a prayer turbine, and spinning it at 100s of RPMs. Don't get me started on their callous handling of libraries that these texts reference or the complete lack of standards when new data is added. They just throw it into the pile and keep spinning. :| They may have a handle on religion, but their data security sucks, frankly. | | |
| ▲ | woodrowbarlow 3 days ago | parent [-] | | and does anyone actually audit their scrolls? there could be malprayer slipped in there. |
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| ▲ | npteljes 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| All depends on the prayer quota. If one can do "9 000 000 mantras per minute" easily, then maybe what's needed for betterment is a totality of a quintillion prayers in one's life. |
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| ▲ | N_Lens 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Just a ritual, the design is Very Human! |
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| ▲ | moomoo11 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Man searching for God is like a hacker trying to find super user on some remote system. Turns out someone else made both :P |
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| ▲ | Imustaskforhelp 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | This feels like one of the quotes that needs to be quoted and I would quote you if I can understand what you mean by "turns out someone else made both" as maybe its me who didn't get its meaning (so can you please explain what you mean by this? thanks in advance!) | | |
| ▲ | Hnrobert42 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I think they mean: turns out someone else made both the computer system and man. They are implying the existence of god. | | | |
| ▲ | moomoo11 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | The hacker and the system share the same maker, so the search was never outside to begin with. Breaking in is ironic, because the hacker is already part of what was created by the superuser they are looking for. | | |
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| ▲ | StableAlkyne 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Does that mean a seance is akin to running 'wall' in your local haunted house? |
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| ▲ | graemep 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I guess you are the product of a culture formed by a theistic religion? Buddhism has some very different ideas. Its also quite varied - Theravada is more different from Zen than protestant Christianity is from Catholic or Orthodox. Most types of Christian prayer are about having in effect on yourself, so it would not make sense. Even intercessionary prayer is a personal request, so this sort of thing sounds wrong, but the prayer wheels arise from completely different beliefs. |
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| ▲ | Almondsetat 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I fail to see how your reply is remotely relevant to what I've said. Any way you put it this seems like a convenient "tradition" to allow people to pray less but make them feel as if they prayed more | | |
| ▲ | tom_ 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | But what if that's not how prayer works? What if rotating the prayer wheels is just as effective as saying the prayers out loud? And what if that effect really can be multiplied up mechanically, somehow, and what if it doesn't actually matter whether people say them out loud or not? There'd be little reason not to use prayer wheels. And the people using them would be doing the exact opposite of praying less. They'd be praying more! You're claiming prayers are not real, but then seem not to be following through fully with this, by subsequently assuming that if they were real, it would be inevitable that they'd have to operate in some particular way. But that wouldn't automatically follow. I think this is the reply's point. | | |
| ▲ | Almondsetat 3 days ago | parent [-] | | My point is that since writing is a human invention (and a recent one at that), having a tradition where you can conveniently multiply your prayers through scripture seems utterly convenient and manufactured |
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| ▲ | joemazerino 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Couldn't have a snide reply on a prayer wheel grift without somehow inflicting a jab at Christianity, now could you? | | |
| ▲ | graemep 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I think you have misunderstood me. "it does not make sense" is not a jab at Christianity (or Buddhism). The intended meaning is that something like a prayer wheel would not make sense given Christian beliefs but may do given particular Buddhist beliefs. | | |
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