Apple has on a few occasions in the past come in after people have spent a lot of time and energy developing things and making a small market, figuring out how it should actually work, making a nice version 1.0 of how it should actually work, making that market explode 100-fold and taking all the money.

That smart homes are more trouble than they are worth currently sounds to me like ripe territory for Apple to poach.

However not sure if without Jobs and Ive if they can actually do anything like what they used to.

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FireBeyond 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

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veidr 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

A fuck of a lot better than HomePod, LOL!

(Context: I have 2 Apple TV devices and 5 HomePod devices in my home, plus one Apple Vision Pro. I only like one of those more than my Pixel 9 Fold.)

	▲	FireBeyond a day ago \| parent [-]
		I use HomePod Minis solely as Thread/Matter routers, as my home is set up very heavily with HomeKit. I have 2 in areas where I have a bunch of devices but no Apple TVs nearby. So fully invested. But yeah...

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api 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The problem isn't that Vision Pro is a bad product. The problem is that it's built for a bad thesis. People don't want VR/AR goggles very much, or at least not many people do, and I think eventually we will stop trying to make this happen.

VR/AR has niche applications: gaming, industrial and military AR uses, assistive uses with people who are mobility challenged, education. These are niche uses. Even gaming is a niche-- most gamers have demonstrated that a big-ass monitor is preferred over goggles. Making the goggles better may push this a little but I doubt it's going to lead to a landslide of gaming demand.

VR/AR was largely a feature of dystopian sci-fi for a reason, too. Everyone jacking into goggles is dystopian. It's something that would appeal to people if the world got so shitty that you just don't even want to see what's in front of you, but I'd rather us spend our engineering effort making the world not get like that by solving some of our real world problems. I don't think I'm alone here.

It might be a good idea for long duration space flight, but personally if I were on a ship on the way to Mars I'd rather read books or hang with my ship mates and talk about the problems we're going to face when we land. If I decided to go into space I'd rather experience life in space -- including the boring parts and the hard parts -- than jack into some kind of VR escape world. I could do that at home.

	▲	qwertytyyuu 2 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		At in terms of glasses would be quite different to goggles, a significant percentage of the population already need eyesight correction, having glasses with a hud getting good adoption doesn’t seem like a stretch
	▲	grim_io 2 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		People didn't even want to put on 3d glasses for their TV. No way in hell are they strapping a computer to their faces.

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paulryanrogers 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Was Johnny Ive really a driver of innovation? Or just trading repairabily for vanity metrics?

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mgh2 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

He was a great designer with low business acumen (without Jobs).

His realm at Apple began crumbling when he executed a flawed strategy for the Apple watch launch as a fashion item, instead of a technology product geared toward health (Fitbit was 1st). It costed Apple 25M, and seemed like buying advertising from influencers (similar to 23andme launch).

I usually value this youtuber's insights, but he has recently been reaching the wrong conclusions: https://youtu.be/JUG1PlqAUJk?si=_Y87UQGdhIo92a7r&t=469

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DrBenCarson 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You tell me, was the iPhone innovative?

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guestbest a day ago | parent | next [-]

The iPhone wasn’t as innovative as the AppStore which didn’t come around until iPhone OS 2. Selling software like music changed everything

	▲	DrBenCarson 16 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Cool. App Store extended the true innovation which was a fully capable OS in everyone’s pocket App Store doesn’t exist without iPhone just like Windows doesn’t exist without the PC

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paulryanrogers a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Was Ive involved in the iPhone creation? Or only its enshittification?

	▲	DrBenCarson 16 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Jony owned iPhone hardware design top-to-bottom through development and multiple launches You think he’s glorified for literally nothing?
	▲	dcrazy a day ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		When the iPhone was developed, Jony led industrial design but not yet software design.

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kjkjadksj 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

No it was inevitable

	▲	DrBenCarson 16 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Inevitable * in hindsight * Innovation is the introduction of a new paradigm that works so well that people can no longer imagine not having No one was close to the original iPhone at launch and they didn’t really catch up until ~iPhone 12 for truly competitive alternatives
	▲	bryanrasmussen 2 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		the inevitable things are the greatest innovations (in the realm of technology)