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dangus 2 days ago

> For example, he expects there to be a hexagonal grid of apps, just like on the Apple Watch.

One of the worst UI experiences out there.

veidr 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

YMMV. I also hate it (and use the simple, GenX-compatible alphabetically-ordered list) but all my kids and also my wife prefer the weird hex grid — they're just faster with it, it doesn't slow them down the way it does to my 1970s heavy-rock brain ¯\\_(ಠ_ಠ)_/¯

dangus 20 hours ago | parent [-]

I can see how it is faster since you can see more apps at once but I just hate the scavenger hunt of it.

I feel like something normal like a 4x4 grid with multiple customizable pages would have made more sense.

RatchetWerks 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm in the minority here. I switched from list to hex. The hex allows for me to select X more apps versus scrolling down and looking for it. It was painful at first since I needed to remember what logos mapped to what app.

kamma4434 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Agreed. Super frustrating

ranger_danger 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

28 million watch sales may suggest that not everyone shares your opinion.

aaronbrethorst 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Apple Watch lets you switch between the unusable hexagonal grid and a list.

I’ve been an Apple Watch user for over ten years and switched from the grid to the list as soon as that was an option.

Also, thanks for introducing me to the term argumentum ad populum. I didn’t know what that was called before.

ranger_danger 2 days ago | parent [-]

If you're trying to passive-aggressively imply my comment is a logical fallacy, I would counter with another one and say I think that's a false equivalence, as there is scientific data that shows quality of a product (which I am defining in this context as not thinking it is "one of the worst UI experiences") can in fact influence sales.

I also qualified my comment with "may suggest" so as to not imply it as some kind of unfounded fact.

https://www.enrichment.iocspublisher.org/index.php/enrichmen...

https://www.firstinsight.com/blog/price-vs-quality-what-matt...

Maybe your definition of quality differs from mine or these people though.

rpdillon 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is a logical fallacy in two dimensions.

First, you're conflating one UI option in the product with the entire product. It could be that 28 million users are using the list-based view.

Second, you're implying that high sales of a product are correlated with quality. This isn't true: high sales are a result of demand and available options, as well as target audience. In Apple's case, because users don't buy a specific product from Apple, but rather buy into the entire ecosystem, Apple users don't typically have the choices that other users have. So it's perfectly viable that they would want the Apple Music integration and the iMessage integration, but hate the UI of the launcher.

Finally, the 'may suggest' phrasing doesn't sound like good faith, but rather a sarcastic quip, which is why I suspect you've been voted down.

jsjohnst 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As someone who has owned every single Apple Watch model/generation and love the hardware, I agree with GP on the terrible UX of the app grid.

jcelerier 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Since when are sales in any way correlated to quality of the product?

ranger_danger 2 days ago | parent [-]

I think since forever...

https://frederik.today/blog/quality-vs-sales-affect-conversi...

https://avenuetalentpartners.com/2017/12/05/quality-always-w...

https://www.forbes.com/councils/forbescommunicationscouncil/...

Not saying it is a direct 1:1 correlation, but I think it's fair to say there is a correlation. And perhaps your definition of quality differs from others.

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mkbelieve 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I only ever use mine for the face + notifications. The UX is godawful. I'd probably buy an Apple watch that only served to relay OTPs.

glhaynes 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It'll also be a very different experience on a screen many times as large.

dangus 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This type of comment is so tiring. I didn’t say other people’s perspective wasn’t valid. I’m just offering mine.

By the way, by your logic $200 laptops/Chromebooks are better than MacBook Pros, since they sell so much better. McDonald’s is actually better than Michelin starred cuisine, too.

Also you’re basically locked into an Apple Watch as the only wearable that can actually do anything so it’s not really a free market of wearables on iOS.

leptons 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

They sold 28 million? That's only 0.34% of all people, so I'm not sure that's the wild success you think it is.

mathiaspoint 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Wow Apple watch in the mac form factor. It's like they want to be known for the worst OSes possible.