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lern_too_spel 3 days ago

Your "extensive" Pew analysis has error bars of +/- 10% for the Asian groups and certainly doesn't show "over 40%" but something that rounds to 40%. Other exit polls all show less than 40%.

It's great that you haven't experienced racial discrimination. This hasn't been the experience of people applying for housing at Trump properties.

https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/117470/documents/...

> In practice, the people who draw attention to my skin color in embarrassing and demeaning ways are white liberals.

Explain to me how putting up Confederate monuments is so we don't "erase history" but removing historical notes about Native Americans, not mentioning a holiday celebrating freedom for all Americans except to disparage it, and removing information about Trump's impeachment is not. I'd like to understand any other explanation than that Trump and his supporters don't see Native Americans or black Americans as "real" Americans, which is what people mean when they use the word "dehumanizing." Is there any other way to explain it than by using skin color? That is why "white liberals" (why are you bringing their skin color into it) bring it up — the only reasonable explanation involves skin color. Nobody in this thread is suggesting that anybody build an identity around it.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-restoring-confederate-nam...

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/5444429-racist-monu...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/juneteenth-trump-too-many-non-w...

https://www.kqed.org/news/12049405/muir-woods-national-monum...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/08/11/smit...

rayiner 3 days ago | parent [-]

> Your "extensive" Pew analysis has error bars of +/- 10% for the Asian groups and certainly doesn't show "over 40%" but something that rounds to 40%. Other exit polls all show less than 40%

That means it could be 50%. “Exit” polls in general aren’t reliable, especially with the mail in voting. Pew isn’t an exit poll, it uses massive surveys. That’s consistent with other data points. Blue Rose Research found that Trump probably narrowly won naturalized citizens: https://data.blueroseresearch.org/hubfs/2024%20Blue%20Rose%2.... Most of those folks are hispanic or asian.

Another data point: lots of majority asian precincts in new york and new jersey flipped to Trump. Trump outright won Flushing, Queens. Jamaica, which has a heavy Bangladeshi population, shifted from D+83 to D+31 (which would mean roughly 35% Trump).

lern_too_spel 2 days ago | parent [-]

> That means it could be 50%.

And it could be 30, but you said for sure it is over 40.

> "Exit” polls in general aren’t reliable, especially with the mail in voting.

That's why all of them also do phone interviews, and that's how they're consistent with each other.

> Most of those folks are hispanic or asian.

We're talking about Asians. They are not even close to comprising most naturalized citizens.

> Jamaica, which has a heavy Bangladeshi population, shifted from D+83 to D+31 (which would mean roughly 35% Trump).

35 is less than 40.