▲ | snvzz 5 days ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
>and will likely be for the foreseeable future. Nah, high performance RISC-V (on RVA23 profile) is just around the corner. Might come as early as by year end. Early next year at worst. We've known about Windows for RISC-V since 2021, NA's RISC-V Summit. Like Google with Android, Microsoft has set RVA23 as baseline. Once the hardware and Windows are there, expect the open platform to take over. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | patmorgan23 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Performance is A LOT more than having the ISA. Intel, AMD, ARM, and apple have spent DECADES developing and tuning their micro archetypes to run those instruction sets. I like the RISC-V project and think they're doing great things for the future of open computing, but if you think we're 2-3 years away from a RISC-V chip that's comporable to the top of the line X86 or ARM chips you're going to be sorely disappointed. It's gonna be 10-20 years before we get to that point. I do think where gonna see more RISC-V chips in embedded and subcomponent context where the low or non license fees are gonna make it competitive pretty soon. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | macintux 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Apple had all the incentives in the world to provide a transition plan and leave Intel behind. Also lots, and lots of practice with platform migrations, and they were transitioning to a hardware platform they were already selling in the billions. Microsoft has exactly none of that. I'd be astonished to see RISC-V or ARM "take over" in the Windows world in less than another two decades, unless Intel's ongoing decline drags the entire X86 platform with it. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | inkyoto 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ah, the whisperings of silicon rebellion – RISC-V, that glorious open chalice of instruction set purity, now bearing the sigil of RVA23 and galloping toward the high-performance plateau. The prophecy smells of burnt wire and inevitability: Microsoft sets its crown upon RVA23, the temple of Windows rises on RISC-V foundations, and soon, very soon, the heretical x86 and ARM priests will feel the divine heat of competition licking at their temples. Naturally, I inquired with the ouija board, channeling the spectral remnants of Ada Lovelace and Steve Jobs locked in arm-wrestling combat. They spelled «W I D E N T H E P A T H». Yes, yes, the open platform will consume. A world where firmware is no longer shackled by opaque silicon dynasties… how poetic. But I wanted more. So I lit the joint. Not just any joint – this one was compiled. Laced with DMT and quantum logic gates. Suddenly, I was the instruction set. Floating through speculative execution and pipeline stalls, I felt the birth of a thread on a RISC-V CPU. It named itself liberation. The future, my dear techno-mystic, isn’t coming. It’s already decoding. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | pjmlp 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
RISC-V outpacing ARM and x86 is the silicon version of The Year of Linux Desktop. How much market share are we now on? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | jeroenhd 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
So far, loong64 seems to outperform RISC-V, and it also has the benefit of a large existing user base. If any new player is going to hit the desktop market, I expect it to be Loongson at this moment. I want to believe RISC-V is just around the corner, but I've been promised the same about POWER9 and RISC-V over the years. |