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alephnerd 6 days ago

> Better for health, the environment.

India has an equally large cattle industry that outproduces American dairy and cattle, yet their industry has a fraction of the carbon and methane impact as American dairy and cattle rearing [0] because the feed used in Indian industry is crop residue instead of industrialized meat+grain mixtures.

American Ag is hyperconsolidated into 3 processors [1] which makes it difficult for innovations to develop, whereas an equally large country like India has 228 local run dairy cooperatives and multiple private sector players each generating around $500M-2B in revenue.

Yet, the comments I'm seeing here on HN (and with those who I chatted with at the state level Dems) are reminiscent to those who blamed autoworkers and coalworkers for not learning to code back in 2014.

If someone like me who has been somewhat hesitant about Lina Khan until after getting deep into the dairy industry recently, I think HNers should recognize the value this train of thought can have in 2026 and 2028.

84% of Americans consume dairy or dairy alternative (still synthesized using dairy) products [2] - don't make this yet another culture war topic

[0] - https://www.thebullvine.com/dairy-industry/from-extinction-t...

[1] - https://www.thebullvine.com/news/will-your-dairy-farm-surviv...

[2] - https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/agriculture/our-insights...

gruez 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

>India has an equally large cattle industry that outproduces American dairy and cattle

That's a tad misleading. The statistics I could find only says that India outproduces the US in dairy, not beef. Rounding

>yet their industry has a fraction of the carbon and methane impact as American dairy and cattle rearing [0]

I did a cursory search in your source for "carbon" and "methane" and couldn't find anything to back this claim, only vague claims about how India does "Regenerative farming" and is therefore "low methane".

>because the feed used in Indian industry is crop residue instead of industrialized meat+grain mixtures.

That's not scalable and only works because the country is poor and beef/dairy consumption isn't high. There's no way you can supply American level demand for beef/dairy by only using crop residue.

>American Ag is hyperconsolidated into 3 processors which makes it difficult for innovations to develop, whereas an equally large country like India has 26 state run dairy cooperatives and multiple private sector players.

You can easily tell an opposite story about how consolidate companies have bigger budgets for R&D and capital projects, as opposed to 26 cooperatives each trying to implement some sort of strategy.

mahirsaid 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Regardless, it's terrible to have around you. Your dog will have it too if let be. they do need to be controlled if it gets out of hand. Better now than when its a bigger problem.

ajmurmann 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Could I start a processor today and disrupt them? (Real question, I know almost noting and meat processing)

alephnerd 4 days ago | parent [-]

Nope. These are organizations that can generate multi-billion dollar revenues, and could outcompete based on investment capacity alone.