| ▲ | weinzierl 6 days ago |
| As a German I couldn't agree more. I am your age and even I consider leaving. If I was still young I wouldn't be here anymore. I think the combination of capital and skilled labour fleeing is very concerning and a trend that could end up self-reinforcing and hard to stop. |
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| ▲ | cpursley 6 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Don’t forget the energy suicide Germany has committed. Cheap energy was the backbone of Germanys rich industrial economy, and that rug has been (allowed and even encouraged) to be pulled by none other than the country now offering them a “very good price” on LNG… |
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| ▲ | trallnag 6 days ago | parent [-] | | Did you miss the Russo-Ukrainian war? Or are you suggesting that we (Europeans) should have continued pumping cash into Russia for a bunch of gas? | | |
| ▲ | cpursley 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | You still are, and more than you've sent to help Ukraine. I was mostly talking nuclear power shutdowns btw. Meanwhile, vital German heavy industry has already started shutting down. | | |
| ▲ | ExoticPearTree 5 days ago | parent [-] | | > I was mostly talking nuclear power shutdowns btw. There is some confusion here: the issue is not necessarily about pure electrical power alone. You need oil and oil based products for most of the things (plastics, fabrics etc.). |
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| ▲ | properpopper 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | No, but I think that diplomacy layer did a horrible job in stopping that conflict early. They signed the Minsk agreements just to ignore them later | |
| ▲ | bhelkey 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I think what they were referring to Germany phasing out nuclear power. In 2011 Germany had 17 active nuclear power plants. They closed their last one in 2023. | |
| ▲ | ExoticPearTree 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Or are you suggesting that we (Europeans) should have continued pumping cash into Russia for a bunch of gas? Unpopular opinion these days, but yes. A government's duty is first and foremost to its citizens. Anyone else comes last. |
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| ▲ | MaKey 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Why do you consider leaving? Where would you rather live? |
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| ▲ | weinzierl 6 days ago | parent [-] | | Lack of confidence in future economic improvement. A place where I could blend in which rules out the kind of obvious and otherwise excellent choices in Asia. | | |
| ▲ | MaKey 6 days ago | parent [-] | | > Lack of confidence in future economic improvement. Germany is still the 3rd biggest economy worldwide. If you want to stay in Europe (as per your other comment) and future economic improvement is your biggest concern, I don't see a benefit in moving anywhere else. | | |
| ▲ | ExoticPearTree 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Europe currently runs on inertia. The EC is killing pretty much everything with over-regulation. We don't have AI in Europe (don't get me started about Mistral) but we have AI regulation. | |
| ▲ | weinzierl 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | "still" is the keyword. No intention to walk into disaster with eyes wide open. | | |
| ▲ | MaKey 5 days ago | parent [-] | | How do you intend to avoid this disaster you see on the horizon? |
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| ▲ | oulipo 6 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
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| ▲ | weinzierl 6 days ago | parent | next [-] | | US as destination is so unrealistic that I'd never really considered it. Also this was about leaving Germany, not necessarily leaving Europe. | |
| ▲ | ExpertAdvisor01 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I would rather live/work in the US than Germany .
I lived almost my whole life in Germany | |
| ▲ | zgk7iqea 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | maybe better in terms of overall living standards but not in terms of innovation or the state being friendly to someone running a business | | |
| ▲ | oulipo 5 days ago | parent [-] | | well what matters in the end is living standard. Innovation is cool, but it's pointless if it is to serve a stupid fascist society | | |
| ▲ | zgk7iqea 5 days ago | parent [-] | | the OP is about the difficulty of running a business in germany, not living standards. And what matters is always subjective |
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