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| ▲ | LargoLasskhyfv 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| What urban environment? Isn't this about to be able being deployed somewhere way out there? Where diesel is impractical because of logistics? In which urban environment that would be the case? And wouldn't that environment have to be flattened, torn down, and rebuilt to be economically viable again, anyway? |
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| ▲ | Voultapher 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Blowing up the home of birds and countless other species, yeah ok. Blowing up the the home of humans that can be warned and evacuated effectively, you must be kidding right!?! I get that you don't like the idea in general, no matter who it is dropped on, but take a step back and examine your reaction. |
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| ▲ | generalizations 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Wait are you seriously equating the home destruction of birds and humans? You’re trying to call me out for seeing those as not morally equal? Dude, take a step back and examine your entire system of ethics. | | |
| ▲ | Voultapher 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Yes, I'm calling you a human supremacist [1]. There are plenty of examples of things that are not equal like skin color or gender and yet we - I assume you are not racist or sexist - try to treat equal. Drawing a hard line in the sand at human and everything else seems well ... really an Orangutan and a Human are so different that they deserve completely different rights, what about whales that have languages likely as complex or more complex than humans? Don't get me wrong I don't believe a cricket has the same emotional reasoning capabilities as a human. But it strikes me as very human to define in-groups people like you and people or beings other than you and using that as justification to do horrible things to them. [1] https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2024/08/mm-12-human-supremacy/ | | |
| ▲ | generalizations 2 days ago | parent [-] | | First of all, you've created a strawman out of what you assume I believe. > But it strikes me as very human to define in-groups people like you and people or beings other than you and using that as justification to do horrible things to them. This is a behavior nonspecific to humans...not sure if you've heard of it, but there's this fascinating emergent behavior among wild animals that naturalists have occasionally observed - in colloquial terms, they've labeled it "predator and prey". | | |
| ▲ | Voultapher 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Comparing the industrialized usage of animals like pigs and cows to "predator and prey" is not a good comparison in my opinion. For the record I'm totally fine with indigenous humans hunting and killing animals. The scale and industrialized nature is what makes a big difference I find, the same way killing someone in self defense and genocide both involve the murder of humans, yet there is a qualitative difference I wouldn't ignore. Many predatory species engage in behavior that limits their hunting to avoid making their prey extinct. Right now extinction rates are >1000x above the baseline a couple hundred years ago. What we are doing to the biosphere we are currently part of is short sighted self sabotage - which is in large parts fueled by a wide spread human supremacist mindset. |
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| ▲ | yongjik 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I'm pretty sure GP is joking ... |
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