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ethbr1 3 days ago

Anyone who doesn’t ask about compensation (at least at a later point in the interview process) would be a red flag to me.

Most valuable people know they’re valuable, and do (and should!) negotiate compensation.

steveklabnik 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

I am not sure I fully agree with the characterization above (that asking about salary is a 'red flag' in our process), but if I had to try and steelman it: we prominently put

> Everyone at Oxide makes $207,264 USD, regardless of location. (Some sales positions have a lower base salary and contain a commission component.)

On our applications page (see it here: https://oxide.computer/careers/sw-control-plane)

It's also a pretty well known aspect of the company. Combine this with the fact that our hiring process is different, where interviews are the very last thing before possibly being hired, and someone who has missed this fact could come across as having not done some very basic research about the company that they're applying to.

To be clear, I still think calling it "a red flag" is a stretch. I fully agree with you in a general sense, for places that are willing to negotiate compensation in the first place, but we make it very clear up front that we do not.

Aurornis 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

> (that asking about salary is a 'red flag' in our process)

> To be clear, I still think calling it "a red flag" is a stretch.

In my comment above I did not call it a "red flag". My specific wording was "somewhat of a negative signal". That seems consistent with what you said about judging someone for asking about a well-known aspect of the company because it signals they haven't done enough research.

It also dodges the question that keeps getting asked: Does everyone receive the same equity compensation as well? As far as I can tell, that question is not answered on your website. Asking it seems like fair game.

steveklabnik 3 days ago | parent [-]

> In my comment above I did not call it a "red flag".

The person I was responding did, you are right that you did not.

> It also dodges the question that keeps getting asked:

This question gets asked in every thread about this, nobody is trying to dodge anything. The equity portion is variable, and the salary is identical. We do not do bonuses.

cestith 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think in general, at many companies a candidate asking is a red flag. Also for many candidates a company not wanting to discuss it until the offer is a red flag.

It seems that specifically your open disclosure very up front bypasses at least most of this from both sides.

ethbr1 2 days ago | parent [-]

Fair. At least one of the two should broach it pretty early in the process, and if the other doesn’t then the remaining party should.

For anyone talented and in-demand, there are attractive and unattractive total comp numbers.

If the company and the potential employee are too far apart on those, why should both waste their time on an interview process?

ghaff 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

FWIW, my last job I didn't negotiate. Company I really wanted to work for. Wanted to close the deal. So I didn't gum up the works with salary negotiation and it ended up being very good for me in a lot of ways.

Aurornis 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Red flagging a candidate for not asking about compensation during the interview is not a good practice. This is an example of penalizing people for not following a specific script or candidate archetype you have in mind instead of judging them by their skills and abilities.

ge96 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

self esteem problem ha (not asking or thinking low)