| ▲ | bn-l 4 days ago |
| The tech is arguably not there yet. From my own observations, normies get annoyed quickly because they expect it to work like deterministic software. And they tend to be way less interested in it in general, especially when I’m breathlessly telling them about this and that latest development. |
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| ▲ | karel-3d 4 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| oh wow people want their software to be deterministic and with the same set of inputs get the same set of outputs! What is this, the 90s? |
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| ▲ | surgical_fire 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > normies get annoyed quickly because they expect it to work like deterministic software In very few use cases it is acceptable to have non-deterministic result for computation tasks. It does not matter if you are a normie or an advanced user. |
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| ▲ | dotancohen 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Normal people don't understand what the word deterministic is, nor do they really expect their software to produce deterministic results. For one thing, they're not running the operation multiple times and comparing the outputs. For another, if they give the same task to three different people they're going to get three different results anyway, so what does it matter if the computer gives three different results, if they even notice. | | |
| ▲ | surgical_fire 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > Normal people don't understand what the word deterministic is I would argue that they implicitly do, as any user expects the same action performed on a computer or similar system to provide the same outcome. > For another, if they give the same task to three different people they're going to get three different results Give the same three tasks to a single user to be executed three times separately, and he will get supremely annoyed if his actions do not give him the same results. | | |
| ▲ | bigstrat2003 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Not even implicitly understand. A layman is perfectly capable of understanding what deterministic behavior is, and claiming otherwise is just condescension. | |
| ▲ | dotancohen 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Then you and I work with very different people. Here it seems "reset it and try again" is considered a viable problem solving technique. | | |
| ▲ | surgical_fire 3 days ago | parent [-] | | It sometimes is, as resetting may clean some dirty state. Even when people don't really understand why they are doing it, and are merely following trends they saw elsewhere, it does not invalidate the point. |
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| ▲ | fn-mote 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I think “normal” (non-computer) people have a mental model for computing that is more like a (possibly bad) coworker. They would quickly adapt to “reload it a few times if it doesn’t work right away”. Isn’t this what people are already doing when they browse the web? I know I am. | |
| ▲ | izacus 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | What are you basing those claims on? |
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| ▲ | nolok 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| But I can ask the AI, it understand what I want and give me the steps. I can ask it to give it to me in api call instead and it does, after a bit of mashup. Sure the api link and permissions and yada yada plays a part, but thats exactly how they can trap us into office365, with already use azure permissions and everything. Again I'm sure it's harder than it looks, but it's not an AI problem anymore, and they're throwing billions at it. |
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| ▲ | ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > normies do you mean users? |
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| ▲ | wkat4242 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Yeah they don't understand we're in the equivalent phase that the commodore 64 was for the computer. |
