| ▲ | scott_w 4 days ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
They promised a policy (Brexit) in a form that would replace immigration from European countries with immigration from non-white countries. In fact, the Tories did NOT promise to reduce immigration. They promised 2 things that are guaranteed to increase immigration: - 50,000 extra nurses (including foreign recruitment) - A points-based system, you can find articles talking about how this increases immigration | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | Nursie 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> They promised 2 things that are guaranteed to increase immigration > A points-based system, you can find articles talking about how this increases immigration Firstly, I don't think they actually introduced one of those, did they? And secondly, how is that guaranteed to increase immigration? The UK media and some of politicians at the time were all talking about an Australian-style points system. As someone pretty intimately acquainted with the Australian system, people (including ex-PM Teresa May) didn't seem to understand that under the Australian system - - The government sets a minimum number of points under which you won't even be considered. - The government set a maximum number of visas they will grant under the scheme each year - The people with the best points are invited to apply for those visas So with this setup the 'paper' minimum might be 65 points, but the effective threshhold is often 95 points to actually be invited to apply. Yet in the UK the picture was painted as if you set a points threshhold and that's it, anyone with more than that gets a visa and you can't possibly control the numbers. It seemed like a total misunderstanding of the scheme. They also said things like "And Australia has proportionally even higher migration than the UK under that scheme!", which is true, but again that's because the government has decided to set the amounts of visas at that level and sets them higher or lower, or adjusts which skills get more points, according to perceived need for skilled people. Aus has higher migration under their points scheme as a choice. The UK could have chosen to limit skilled visas under a similar program to a much lower level. As far as I could tell, all of the articles and talking points at the time entirely ignored this. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | amiga386 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> In fact, the Tories did NOT promise to reduce immigration. In fact they did. They promised to reduce immigration. They did the opposite of what you just said. Their 2019 manifesto said "There will be fewer lower-skilled migrants and overall numbers will come down." Source: PDF linked on https://conservativehome.com/2019/12/06/read-the-conservativ... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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