| ▲ | granra 4 days ago |
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| ▲ | dang 3 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| "Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents." We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44691738. |
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| ▲ | fxtentacle 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I find it odd that you call it "disturbing". He studied "Divinity and Theology" and the first sentence says that someone asked him to "outline the Church's response to abortions", which he then did, mostly by quoting articles published by the church. (We probably both disagree with him on the topic and the arguments, but that's secondary to my question.) Which part of him stating his opinion is "disturbing" to you? |
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| ▲ | ksynwa 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | The last two paragraphs | |
| ▲ | granra 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Fair enough, I may not have picked the best example while skimming it quickly (he seems to have thousands of posts on his blog). I didn't like him using the word "pro-abortion" though (and not pro-choice) which to me seems to be used to villainize the other side. | | |
| ▲ | happyopossum 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > I didn't like him using the word "pro-abortion" though (and not pro-choice) which to me seems to be used to villainize the other side Considering that the pro-life side is typically called anti-woman or worse, the scales are hardly unbalanced against the pro choice side. | | |
| ▲ | granra 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Logically I see your point. But one side is fine with the other side having the opinion to not have an abortion under any circumstances while the other is fighting to take the right away from anyone to have an abortion. So I feel like one side has more reason to go for the anti-* card, although I don't think it's very productive. | | |
| ▲ | patmcc 3 days ago | parent [-] | | From the POV of anti-abortion folks, the idea of "oh just let other people have abortions if they want" is as silly as saying "oh just let other people have slaves / kill their infants". If you think a fetus is worthy of similar moral protection as a 2 year old of course you'd be against all abortion, in the same way you're against all toddler murder. (I don't think a fetus, especially <20 weeks or whatever, is a full moral person, but I understand those who do) | | |
| ▲ | aaronblohowiak 3 days ago | parent [-] | | If only the rest of our society held this level of introspection and reflection we’d be so much better off. |
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| ▲ | nixgeek 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | So you approached “Who is Jeff?” by driving by his blog, searching across thousands of old and new posts, seeking out things you find triggering, and then went to HN to say you found this? That’s one way to spend Saturday, I guess! | | |
| ▲ | granra 4 days ago | parent [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | kortilla 3 days ago | parent [-] | | It’s emotionally immature to couple these things together. Would you refuse to board a plane if you knew the pilot attended pro-life protests? Would you go around telling other people in the boarding line this “FYI”? | | |
| ▲ | lewismenelaws 3 days ago | parent [-] | | This is a false equivalence. You don’t choose your pilot. You choose your airline company. If your airline company voiced there views on a certain topic you disagree with, we have the liberty to choose where we put our dollar (or attention). For others who share your same views, they might want to hear this in case they are unaware. Freedom of the market. |
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| ▲ | JKCalhoun 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yeah, I'm thinking no one is pro-abortion. | |
| ▲ | ToValueFunfetti 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | The terminology issue of abortion gets insane airtime for something that I have to assume has never been meaningfully persuasive to anyone. The guy thinks you think it's okay to kill babies. You think the guy thinks it's okay to control women's bodies and deny them medical care. At that point, who cares if he wants to call your position "pro-abortion" and you want to call his position "disturbing"? Are people really wavering in the middle, eager to pick a side but terrified of being labelled as anti-choice or anti-life? Maybe kids are deciding their position based on which words sound nicer rather than agreeing with / rebelling against their parents? And these kids already know enough that "pro-abortion" means "villain" to them? You rarely (or never) see a discussion about, say, Trump turn into a litigation of whether it's okay to call the opposition libtards/rwnjs/SJWs/MAGAts, but that stuff has to make up more than half of abortion discussion. Is it just that people are loath to actually talk about the issue at this point and this is another outlet? | | |
| ▲ | granra 4 days ago | parent [-] | | What I saw as disturbing was the content of the post, failing to see that he wasn't directly voicing his own opinion on the matter. I didn't like the use of the word "pro-abortion". I generally address them as pro-life even though I don't like that it indirectly indicates that the other side would be "anti-life" but I agree that it's not productive to get into a flame war on terminology. | | |
| ▲ | kaelwd 3 days ago | parent [-] | | That is his opinion too, there are other posts where he strongly advocates against even the use of contraception. |
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| ▲ | jrowley 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I had no idea about his staunch anti choice stance. Pretty gnarly stance to say abortion is unacceptable in all cases (including incest, rape, etc). This is good to know and changes my perspective on him. Thank you for sharing. |
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| ▲ | pohuing 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think you meant to write anti choice not pro choice. |
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| ▲ | WorkerBee28474 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Good for him. |
