"A lot of men" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.

Go read some statistics on the number of women harassed, abused, raped, and killed every day—every single day—because they are women.

Go ask your mother, your sister, your wife, your female best friend, when they had their last abusive encounter.

Go ask your friends of both genders what the worst things are that could happen to them when walking home at night, and compare the responses.

Go read some historic accounts of how women were treated for… pretty much all of history.

Go look up news articles of what can happen to women when riding a taxi. Spoiler: it’s not just a threat.

Yes, there are some abusive women out there. Yes, it’s fucked up when that happens to you. But trying to insinuate the levels of violence against men would be even remotely comparable is just plain awful.

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lazide 5 days ago | parent [-]

By the time a man has hit his 40’s, it is exceptionally uncommon he hasn’t seen someone hit with a false rape claim - or had one himself - by a vindictive ex. Or has been threatened with (or directly attacked) with physical violence.

By people going on the same sort of rants like you just did.

Some People are terrible, especially when they think they can act without consequences.

Does that excuse men doing bad things too? No.

But it sure does (or should!) make anyone with a brain question hyperbolic claims of abuse or violence without actual evidence.

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9dev 5 days ago | parent [-]

The problem is that you're equating the wide range of violence against women with a specific kind of violence against men by calling both "bad things", insinuating those are even remotely comparable. They are not. 90% of rape victims are female. In the US alone, every 68 seconds, a woman is sexually assaulted.

After the big war, some Germans were quick to point out that their people had suffered when they were displaced from the land they occupied in Poland, for example, and that "both sides had suffered". I assume you're also incapable of understanding why the victims of the Nazi regime were completely aghast by that?

> But it sure does (or should!) make anyone with a brain question hyperbolic claims of abuse or violence without actual evidence.

What do you suggest to do instead? Sexual violence is often a crime with only the perpetrator(s) and the victim as witnesses. In most cases, rape doesn't leave persistent traces. Rape victims tend to be in shock, however, and often need time to process what happened. Your suggestion seems to be that we should question these claims?

Judging these cases correctly is incredibly complicated, and claims of wide swaths of men falling prey to abusive women don't really help anyone affected.

	▲	lazide 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		There is a reason ‘he said, she said’ is widely known as the shittiest type of situation, eh? Yes, we should question those claims, and any others. Or everyone who wants to be shitty will do it via that route. It’s basic shitty human behavior. That it screws actual victims is why people gaming the system should be punished. But not challenging these claims just makes more victims too. And eventually people will just tune out accusations, because the shittiness has gotten too pervasive. And then the predators/shitty humans will get be doing more actual rape eh? Which is terrible. This is why it’s also prudent to be very careful who anyone is alone with, favor video recording of public spaces, etc. as well. Because the best way to avoid a situation is to make it as difficult as possible for the situation to occur, and minimize the chances of any ambiguity. Which is also shitty for everyone. Personally, I also don’t trust the stats because I’ve seen many (5+) women retcon clearly consensual behavior (that they were even bragging about before!) into ‘he raped me’ when someone tried to shame them for it later, or there was some leverage they could get out of it. I had one who literally admitted to me when I investigated that she was doing it to punish the guy for refusing to date her later. Another was fine until she went home and her mom gave her crap about her dating behavior, and then all the sudden it was rape. Until we started to interview her for her story, and then she admitted it was consensual. I very much believe actual rapes and SA’s occur. I personally have literally never seen an accusation for rape or SA that stood up to even the lightest scrutiny, within the environments I’ve been responsible for. And not because I was trying to avoid them! The joys of being a manager of mixed sex groups eh? If we could figure out the actual truth of these situations, then we could punish actual offenders and not constantly be in this BS situation.