> Our eyes absolutely blow out whites in the sun.

Do you have a new technique to decode eye-brain perception in terms of how we perceive visual signals? Do you have a paper indicating how you make this claim for everyone?

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dahart a day ago | parent [-]

Do you really need a paper? It’s well known that looking at the sun does damage to rods and cones, because it far exceeds their response range, long before perception gets involved.

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mystraline a day ago | parent | next [-]

'In the sun' != 'at the sun'

And you completely miss what I'm asking too.

Chemical reactions in the rods and cones are only a small portion of vision processing. The rest is in the brain, with a great deal of various processing happening, that eventually comes to cognition and understanding what you see.

And parts of the visual cognition system also synthesize and hallucinate vision systems as well, like the vision hole where the optic nerve meets the eye. But cognitively, the data is there smeared across time and space (as in a SLAM algo putting the data where it should go, not what is measured).

	▲	dahart a day ago \| parent [-]
		What, exactly, is relevant about the perception and cognition systems if the signal from rods and cones is clipped or distorted? By ‘blown out’ we are talking about the rods and cones being saturated and unable to respond meaningfully. Your question doesn’t make sense, and I’m neither making claims about nor arguing over what happens in the perceptual system to bad/saturated inputs. I don’t know what you mean by ‘in the sun’ != ‘at the sun’. I’m the one who said ‘in the sun’ and I was talking about staring at the sun. I’m not sure what your point is, but if you’re trying to say that a game render of looking at the sun is different than the experience of actually looking at the sun, then I wholly agree. A game will (rightly and thankfully) never fully recreate the experience of looking at the sun. If you’re trying to defend &carlosjobim’s claim that human vision doesn’t have an absolute upper luminance limit, then I think you need to back that claim up with some evidence.

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NewsaHackO a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Woah, the sun is bright? How do you know this is true for everyone? Do you have a peer reviewed RCT paper posted in a high impact journal confirming this?